croc can take a few. In the savage land, it's actually very feasible for him to ambush and drown Victor. He's also gotten some very nice feats over the years, but yeah, Creed should win 7-8/10 tbh.
I was unaware that Creed could smell opponents that are in the water. Also, while I'm not about to pretend that Waylon is even half the hunter that Creed is, he's snuck up on one of the best hunters in all of comics one more than a few occasions, has similarly enhanced senses, should be physically stronger than Sabretooth, and also has a fairly impressive healing factor.
Let's not pretend, Victor has gotten similarly oneshotted and three pieced by Logan and several others over the years. He just recently got his ass kicked by Deadpool even though he had a whole team backing him up....
Why should he be physically stronger? Sans very few feats, his strength is nothing to speak of. Bleeding Osiris? Creed went toe to toe with Killpower. Bank vault? Vic busted through the forcefield capable of stopping a full grown elephant charge. Those are outliers. On average, Sabes is stronger than Logan and Waylon > Batman, but that advantage rarely ever works in his favour.
Yes, Logan. Croc is not close to his level.
KC is the least competent villain in DC comics (his entire career proves it), which is very surprising, considering that he's a Batman rogue.
Since you brought up the DP showing, it's only fair for me to mention that KC got destroyed by Harvey Dent in his SANE persona... all he needed was a broken bottle.
Sabretooth's claws pierced through Sinister's "Supermen", Archangel's TO wings, Cho Hulk and others. I see minced salad everywhere.
I'm honestly wondering, have you kept up with any of Croc's feats?
He's shrugged off punches from and even managed to affect Zod, put Aquaman on his ass and even shrugged of punches from him, easily beat King Shark, held his own against Soloman Grundy, restrained Cyborg, holding his own against Bane, and much more. The reason behind why Croc loses against Batman is because he's going up against one of the greatest martial artists in all of comics; The same martial artist that has plot armor that's thicker and more durable than the Source Wall.
The difference here is that the DP showing happened like a week ago. The Harvey showing was around a decade ago. You've pretty clearly let your bias color your opinion of him.
KC has healed from getting holes blown in him, getting shot in the face, getting set on fire (he was fighting very close to the surface of the sun when this happened), shrugged of heat vision and punches from Zod, shrugged of punches from Aquaman, etc.
I like Victor, I really do, but you'd have to use only Waylon's low showings to think that he can't manage at least one win in an area with so many bodies of water readily available.
I hope mods allow you to wear it. If not, keep reposting that page in every thread
*getting lazy*
Seems like we ought to agree to disagree on that one.
You're the first poster in this site's history who is willing to give Croc some credit.
That's okay, I like myself to advocate Rhino from time to time... but this devil is particularly bad. "Omg two bullets, the pain, the pain, gonna pass out", "French literature power up!!!", "Almost beat Catwoman, my greatest feat in 40 years".
Can i at least ask that you look into a few of his new52 and rebirth feats? I feel like if you see them, you'll see a marked difference between the jobber that the forum sees him as and the genuine beast that the writers at DC habe decided to make him.
nobody can expect a perfect track record against an opponent. It's just a fact of life; fight someone enough times and you're bound to lose.
Hell, physically speaking, Croc was about even with venom bane before he pulled the equivalent of pulling a crowbar out of his ass and beating croc with it. https://imgur.com/a/VbNe8
Then of course there was this fight during Knightfall were Croc's arms were still healing: https://imgur.com/a/i9tw4
He still managed to briefly get the upper hand. So yeah, Croc has pretty consistently done well against Bane (often with bane sneak attacking or cheapshotting him first).
But yeah, I laugh every time at how Bane begs Waylon to kill him.
honestly, it's not all that strange that people rank him so low on this forum. He does have some seriously rediculous low showings. It used to be that if you threw a rock, you'd be more likely to hit a low showing for him than you would to hit a high or even mediocre showing. It seems that most people that write the Batman family write him off as a C list joke that only exists to get Worfed (which really upset me since he was introduced as multidimensional and powerful). It's only been recently, thanks to the Suicide Squad books that he's gotten so many impressive feats back to back.
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i appreciate the croc scans. i've read some ss stuff lately and he did look better. i just see sabes on the next level up in terms of consistency and higher end feats in general. both at their best, or in a comic, i'd bet this would be a good, tough fight. the healing factor can't be denied though as a large advantage. croc can heal too, but he's not in creed's class. skill also goes to creed, and speed. maybe strength is a push but there just isn't a stat where croc has an edge here. not even in brains or experience. some of the fights would be close, but i still see this as 9-10/10 for creed in the end.