Uhm, what? PF Vulcan was a beast that issue. He destroyed 8 galaxies with ease, he destroyed the majority of the Annihilation Wave as a side effect of one of his rampages, he had 8 Watchers wetting themselves in fear that he'd destroy the universe.
No other PF, aside from Jean in like 2 What Ifs, has anything close to this.
I actually think he beats SMP.
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Grand Design Jean-Phoenix remade the universe from scratch (so not just manipulating pre-existing matter but generating it herself) atom by atom and it was stated to not be the 1st time she had done it
Rachel gathered the psychic imprints of all life in the universe and overwhelmed Pre-retcon Beyonder
Hope Phoenix reversed Wandas multiversal affecting No More mutants spell
Cyclops Phoenix staggered God Doom before getting choked out after getting too yappy
He consumed 7 galaxies and only a third of the Annhilation Wave, not the majority. Not that that is something to scoff at, but it also occured over an undetermined period of time. He didn't just pull a Galactus and nuke them.
And other Phoenix hosts have outdone that, unless you're only counting explosions as feats. GalacticStorm highlighted some above.
If you consider the full implications of Hope's feat for example, she's downright bonkers. And she had control over the Phoenix despite such a short time with it, while Vulcan explicitly failed to harness it properly.
Its a retcon of the M'kraan crystal incident. When the crystal is activated everything outside of the crystal was blinked out of existence, it was a complete void. No matter, no time,just nothing.
Phoenix is then stated to have rebuilt the universe from scratch atom by atom. The comic states that this time around she performed the feat even quicker than the 1st time, tying into previously established continuity that all life/energy and matter derive from the Phoenix.
So where in the scan does it actually state that? Without locating any such statement your assumption remains just that and holds no weight here.
What do you mean "just" a retelling? Its an official Marvel comic not a fanzine so until another Marvel source pops up covering the same section of x-men history telling us something different it is what it is.
The mkraan crystal destroyed the universe, Phoenix repaired the mkraan crystal and restored the universe with the help of X men. That's what happened in Uncanny x men 108.
I'm not sure what's your point? Phoenix repaired the mkraan crystal and repaired the universe with the help of X men in X men 108 and the event is retold here.
Initially you tried to dismiss the feat outright, then upon seeing you had no justification to do so youve settled into a more accurate position on this issue. Thats good to see
Grand Design is a retelling and expands on certain story elements. Whereas before when the crystal was activated the Phoenix re-energized its matrix thereby containing its multiversal power, Grand Design is saying that when the crystal was activated, reality was actually completely wiped out during those "BLINK" effects we saw in the original story leaving a void. However Phoenix then rebuilt reality atom by atom restoring the status quo.
So when you summarize that incident the Phoenix not only rebuilt reality from scratch atom by atom (we're not talking the re-organisation of existing matter here) but she also contained the power of the M'kraan crystal which by canon was behind the destruction of the 6th iteration of the multiverse.
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