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Superman Prime replace Odin in Thor 300

Superman Prime is called upon to save asgard in Odin's place

the question is
Can he do better than amped Odin with destroyer armor against the Fourth Host Celestials, this is guardian amped prime


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No, I don't believe so, just one Celestial may be too much.

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I'm pretty sure he can just fly through them. But what good will that do?


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No, I don't believe so, just one Celestial may be too much.

Why?

Prime rips the celestials apart.


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Why?

Prime rips the celestials apart.
What makes you think that even Prime can do that?

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Skyfathers vs Arishem

https://static1.comicvine.com/uploa...30429-f2k4W.jpg

Jean Grey with a fraction of PF and emotions of a bunch of aliens vs Arishem. Their next appearance IIRC

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Conclusion : Skyfathers are a bunch of sissies.


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you think prime is above skyfather level?


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Yeah he can do as well as Odin if not better, but he ain’t stopping the full host.


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you think prime is above skyfather level?

Absolutely. He has even destroyed a universe as per multiversity (not Earth 51 which was destroyed by Monarch).

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Absolutely. He has even destroyed a universe as per multiversity (not Earth 51 which was destroyed by Monarch).

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Prime only destroyed the actual planet of Earth-15 on panel. I agree with you though.

Edit: now that you mention it, it appears that it has been retconned by Multiversity. Okay, my bad.


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Absolutely. He has even destroyed a universe as per multiversity (not Earth 51 which was destroyed by Monarch).

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thumb up When i was reading multiversity i thought it talking about the universe which was destroyed by monarch explosion

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Prime only destroyed the actual planet of Earth-15 on panel. I agree with you though.

Edit: now that you mention it, it appears that it has been retconned by Multiversity. Okay, my bad.
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thumb up When i was reading multiversity i thought it talking about the universe which was destroyed by monarch explosion

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Why?

Prime rips the celestials apart.



Agreed. He has the powers of The Source.


Or he can call on his 5d imp cousins, or Hourman with the Worlogog.


And LOL at Superman Prime being below Skyfarher level, he empowered EVERY generation of Supermen, including those with 5d imp blood running through their veins.


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Agreed. He has the powers of The Source.


Or he can call on his 5d imp cousins, or Hourman with the Worlogog.


And LOL at Superman Prime being below Skyfarher level, he empowered EVERY generation of Supermen, including those with 5d imp blood running through their veins.


Wrong Supes that's being discussed.


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Wrong Supes that's being discussed.




Honest mistake.


Totally honest. And not an attempted derailment into a far more interesting character. whistle





Superboy Prime gets destroyed.


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There are more questions than answers when it comes to Prime 'destroying' universe-15...

-WHEN did he do it? I'm assuming it was during Countdown, given that this is when he was shown destroying earth-15.
-Was he AMPED at the time? Again, I'm assuming so because he retained the Guardian amp until his final fight with Monarch.
-HOW did he do it? Was it accomplished by flying through(and destroying) every single planet and star in the universe one by one, or does he have some esoteric ability to one-shot universes that we've never seen him use on-panel?
-WHY was universe-15's destruction never mentioned in any material aside from that one blurb in the Multiversity Guidebook?
-WHY, at the end of FC, would Nix have ONLY been concerned with remaking universe-51, if another universe in the Orrery had also been destroyed as a result of Prime's shenanigans?


On top of that, universe-15 was recently used in Morrison's GL series. After the GLs travel there...in search of the Cosmic Grail, mind you...we can clearly see the moon, as well as a multitude of stars, behind Zundernell(in addition to them literally standing on earth-15):
https://i.imgur.com/ZrmrWri.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/FErB2R0.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7OkYxee.jpg

...Which implies that the universe may not have been destroyed entirely, but rather, purged of all life.



At any rate, Prime is already powerful enough on his own. I don't see a reason to try and make him a bonafide universe-buster because of that one blurb... Especially given the above. /shrug


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a single celestial would beat Prime senseless

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I take it back.


Superman Prime still beat up Mxy.

"But he had help from Annataz!"


Good point.

Superboy Prime kidnapped, tortured, and broke a being who could depower Mxy.


Sorry lowballers, there is no way to minimize that feat. Superboy Prime kidnapped and tortured Mxy and Annataz, period.


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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.

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Originally posted by Galan007
There are more questions than answers when it comes to Prime 'destroying' universe-15...

-WHEN did he do it? I'm assuming it was during Countdown, given that this is when he was shown destroying earth-15.
-Was he AMPED at the time? Again, I'm assuming so because he retained the Guardian amp until his final fight with Monarch.
-HOW did he do it? Was it accomplished by flying through(and destroying) every single planet and star in the universe one by one, or does he have some esoteric ability to one-shot universes that we've never seen him use on-panel?
-WHY was universe-15's destruction never mentioned in any material aside from that one blurb in the Multiversity Guidebook?
-WHY, at the end of FC, would Nix have ONLY been concerned with remaking universe-51, if another universe in the Orrery had also been destroyed as a result of Prime's shenanigans?


On top of that, universe-15 was recently used in Morrison's GL series. After the GLs travel there...in search of the Cosmic Grail, mind you...we can clearly see the moon, as well as a multitude of stars, behind Zundernell(in addition to them literally standing on earth-15):
https://i.imgur.com/ZrmrWri.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/FErB2R0.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7OkYxee.jpg

...Which implies that the universe may not have been destroyed entirely, but rather, purged of all life.



At any rate, Prime is already powerful enough on his own. I don't see a reason to try and make him a bonafide universe-buster because of that one blurb... Especially given the above. /shrug

That's a strange response. We know that the multiverse was restructured after Flashpoint and all the universes were again recreated in Convergence.

Its a straight up line, no need to over analyze it.
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a single celestial would beat Prime senseless

laughing out loud


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That's a strange response. We know that the multiverse was restructured after Flashpoint and all the universes were again recreated in Convergence.

Its a straight up line, no need to over analyze it.
The Multiversity Guidebook takes the events of Flashpoint into account:
https://i.imgur.com/P9o8rnU.jpg

Which means this is post-Flashpoint earth-15:
https://i.imgur.com/swYLdjD.png

...Which means it was not recreated/altered by Flashpoint.


Either way, asking pertinent questions about Prime supposedly 'destroying' universe-15, and providing more recent evidence(from Morrison himself) about the current state of universe-15 =/= over-analyzation.

In fact, the GL series actually takes the Guidebook entry into consideration, as the Lanterns explicitly traveled to the "forbidden" universe-15 in search of the Cosmic Grail, and it is mentioned that the universe is all but lifeless... And again: it's also written by Morrison.

Regardless, thinking of Prime as a bonafide universe-buster solely because of that single blurb is dubious at best... As mentioned, there are far more questions than answers where that 'feat' is concerned.


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