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How powerful is Sundipped Superman to other versions

The same Superman powered through six suns to ko WF, where does his power rank in comparison to these other versions of the character.......

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I'd put him above them all, with the possible exception of Thought-Robot.


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He is below the thought robot
Above all others


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Wow..........to say that he is above PC Silver age is really saying something.

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OWAW Supes was sun dipped.
I'm not too sure about the others, and feel as if direct comparisons are needed.
CA Superman is obviously above them all.


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OWAW Supes was sun dipped.
I'm not too sure about the others, and feel as if direct comparisons are needed.
CA Superman is obviously above them all.
but by how much was OWAW Supes Supes sundipped? WF Superman was dipped in 6 suns.

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but by how much was OWAW Supes Supes sundipped? WF Superman was dipped in 6 suns.


Six or one shouldn't matter. It's usually the length of his stay in stars that determine how powerful he becomes. It also depends on the type of star. Recently when he quickly flew through those 6 stars, I walked away feeling mindphucked by the writer, because Superman required time to recharge in the past when he was drained to those levels. In other words that entire scene, including the punch was handled horribly. I can only hope that both companies move away from the arms race, and closer to compelling story telling that is grounded by continuity.


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Meh, there's a scan somewhere showing that when he's stressed, he takes in more energy than he usually does.

Still whack that merely flying through those tiny suns gave him such a boost, but still.


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Above all others


So... he's a Marvel character?

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You know, that explains the yellow aura! Sundip! eek!


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Wow..........to say that he is above PC Silver age is really saying something.
SA Superman was powerful, but even he never oneshotted a hyper time level being.

Heck, I think the argument could be made that this Superman is above CA also


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Woah there lol


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What?

Mandrakk's power was multiversal and CA Superman barely managed to beat him after a long grueling battle.

WF's power was FAR above multiversal and JL25 Superman beat him with a single hit.


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What?

Mandrakk's power was multiversal and CA Superman barely managed to beat him after a long grueling battle.

WF's power was FAR above multiversal and JL25 Superman beat him with a single hit.
It's not that simple. Thought-Robot and Mandrakk did not represent raw power so much as they represented ideas/concepts.

Thought-Robot was a metafictional manifestation of THE most powerful story/idea in DC: Superman's. That is to say- the very essence of Superman's character/story was stuffed into the Thought-Robot, as that was the ONLY way to combat Mandrakk(who was the metafictional manifestation of an evil anti-story.)

That being said, Mandrakk also possessed immense raw power as well. He spent untold eons consuming the Bleed, and Mxy confirmed that the Bleed = pure imagination... And imagination = the 5th dimension. IOW, Mandrakk was essentially consuming 5th dimensional energy for all that time... And Thought-Robot still overcame him. So yeah...


I guess what I'm saying is that just because Mandrakk operated within the multiverse, doesn't mean any regular ol' multiversal being could just waltz up and defeat him. There is SO much more to consider than just power levels.


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Well, in any case this feat does really put even more weight on how powerful Superman Prime One Million really was/is.

Granted, it is not the same work and a straight 1 + 1 = 2 cannot really be done here, however this is still Superman we are talking about.

To think what 15000 years of continuous sundip really means, not to mention all the powers he gathered by flying 70000 years across existence and by supposedly approaching the Source Wall.
He may have appeared very little on panel not doing that much (relatively speaking clearly), but it is logical and straightforward to believe that the implied, actual power of SP1M really was/is scary.


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^ Superman Prime's power is wholly unfathomable, and I think that's exactly what Morrison intended from the start.

When Prime first returned to earth, it was stated that his new power had been "gleaned from the very edge of time and space" -- which means that he was already amped by the Source itself... Then he gifted the Superman Dynasty with "powers FAR beyond those held by ANY metahuman EVER"... Then he entered the sun for 15,000 years... Then he was given a GL ring on top of all that(cuz why not, lol?)

And considering that we've now seen Superman one-shot a multiversal+ being after spending just a few seconds dipping, I literally cannot even begin to wrap my head around Prime's level of power.


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