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Strange is up and down. He may have lost something when he agreed to save his hands. I don't buy him losing to wrecker that easily with a depowerment. Going with fate
FATE is up and down. You act like people stay on consistent levels throughout comics. You dont apply the same rules to DC characters. You always spout the same things on Marvel characters. "He have up and downs. Hes all hype". Like, can you have consistency with your posts? You're consistently applying the same statements in all of your debates but you're NOT sharing the same love for these characters. What level is Fate ALWAYS, CONSISTENTLY being portrayed as? Please provide scans.
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I favor Marvel characters moreso than DC, so if anything I'm more biased towards Marvel. My argument is that Strange is all over the place power-wise recently. I've read all his appearances.. he's transmuting realms in one instance and getting wrecked (pun intended) by wrecker and second-hand Villians in others (he needed help from Jane Foster Valkyrie which was terrible). He isn't using his savvy and seems cockier (more like Tony) than Strange of old. Which is why I think he was depowered/exhausted somehow when he got his hands restored. Maybe his hands don't truly belong to him or some other plot twist.
Also characters generally do stay on a relative power level going slightly up and down based on plot or circumstances. Strange has went wildly left and right from barely casting soell to some legit cheese feats.
Fate. I always assume it's Nelson Senior ( who is on par with classic Strange) unless otherwise stated, which is a stomp. The current Fate iirc is Nabu iirc so he also outclasses Wrecker. If it's the last human hosted Fate, Khalid, it's more of a fight since the kid wasn't really up to the task (but he'd still beat Wrecker in a feat war).
Fate owned Phantom Stranger not too long ago. Constantine stated that there are only a handful of beings that can challenge/beat Phantom Stranger, and Fate was one of them. Fate owns.
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Issue? Was it in JLD? Fate is pretty Uber though, I always seen him as having more in common with Ghost Rider than Strange because when Zarathos/Nabu take over it's a wrap for the competition.
Unlike Strange, Fate is physically high herald. He could punch Wanker out.
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Inza was a total noob, and didn't have Nabu for guidance, yet she took down Lords of Order and Chaos by the droves.
Any other Fate will naturally be even more formidable.
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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
Lords of Order and Chaos have shattered dimensions, and bossed Spectre around. Nabu himself held off Spectre in Day of Vengeance.
Fate is above Wreckers pay grade, even Iron Fist was able to make it a struggle.
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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.