Even with Hulk's bullrushing feats, the chances of him covering 0.5km and getting to Vader before he can react(essentially beating his precog) are slim, imo.
As with the Herc thread: Hulk's best bet is a thunderclap at the onset. But again, that assumes he can clap before Vader can register a thought. /shrug
Also, the characters know the rules right? They know that bfr counts as a win right?
If so then Vader can easily bfr any brick beyond the battlefield for the 10 second count (or whatever the reasonable time allowance is).
Vader can only win with bfr. We've seen plate reinforced throats resist chokes from items far less durable than Hulk. And the whole no-limits fallacy of just reaching through impossibly durable objects seems odd considering the same rules don't seem to apply for comic characters with TK even though they don't get throttled by upgraded Rancors or need to jump inside Zillo Beasts to kill them.
Haha they just reach through Hulk's super thick hide and blow up his heart like they did to all these other beasts in Star Wars that Hulk would one punch.
Are you saying you'd have to be completely retarded to try and argue that?
Also BFR while an option probably wouldn't work either. It's literally reaching out and grabbing you in a wave of energy. What happens when people try to restrain Hulk in a wave of energy or with an external force? The defense against TK is literally pushing the Force outwards to fight back against it. Literal jetpack bursts are an effective tactic against TK.
But yes, Hulk has no defense against something he's broken out of almost everytime on much higher levels used by people used to dealing with those higher levels.
Vader literally has to be strong enough to stop Hulk to control his entire body. It's not a case of Hulk weighing "325 pounds" it's a case of Vader having to stop his entire body from moving at all if he somehow manages to grab his entire body at once. If he chooses to just grab an ankle or a wrist, then he has to be strong enough to stop that from moving to break his hold, in addition to tossing the guy who can jump miles a second far enough away that he can't return. Remember all those times Hulk was BFR'ed by TK everyone? Remember when Vader BFR'ed beings that could return in seconds that actively fought back the entire time?
This isn't Magneto who actually has control of your body or is just powerful enough on his own to fight you in sheer power.
And the lightsaber is resisted by enough things that a guy who's built his career off of fighting sharp weapons and hot objects losing to that seems unlikely. Also Hulk has no healing factor.
I wonder if Doomsday with no superspeed gets BFR'ed by Vader though? Really makes you think.
What is the reasoning here? That you can just grab someone in TK and it's impossible to break out of? Based on ****ing what? If Flash was grabbed in TK that he's just ****ed? The vibrations break it but overwhelming strength far beyond anything Vader has faced can't? What happens when Hulk thunderclaps in the opposite direction if he gets picked up? Vader just rolls with it and it doesn't cause Vader any more exertion and can maintain it?
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The pro-Vader side is using the argument that the force is unique and not something that can be countered unless you have an anti-force ability like your own tk, flight, etc. Strength (even incalculable) isn't seen as a counter to the force and once Hulk is lifted off the ground (or any brick for that matter) they are essentially helpless and easily bfred or choked out.
Darksaint has literally never even seen a Star Wars anything in his life. He just hates Carver.
Conceding that flight can beat it is also retarded because allowing Hulk to clap would tax the **** out of any "hold" Vader had over Hulk. Mass acceleration can beat TK? Good thing Vader TK bfrs more than Hulk claps guys.