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MrMind
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Hal Jordan & Kyle Rayner vs Silver Surfer & Shaman Nate Grey

who wins

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Oct 4th, 2020 02:50 PM

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Either GL is a good match for Surfer, Shaman Nate IMHO is too much for either

Oct 5th, 2020 10:26 AM

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Hal has better feats but ok...

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Oct 7th, 2020 03:56 PM

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Better feats than Nate? LOL

Not on average.

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well let's see

off the top of my head:

Hal korna bust

Hal was playing pool game with planets

Hal has beaten cyborg superman

Hal has beaten zod amped on two suns, same Zod who was beating the crap out of several green lanterns including Kilowog and Kyle Rayner, same Zod who one shotted Supergirl, beat the crap out of Cyborg Superman when his brain was hanging out.

Hal easily tanked on Mogo amped on both GLC and SC power, keep in mind few GLC members stopped a galaxy busting explosion in SCW

Hal destroyed sun eater

Hal went toe to toe with Sinestrollax which was skyfather+ level, the same sinestrollax who outright destroyed spectre, ripped the heart out of volthoom, destroyed a shield even white lantern kyle rayner couldn't

but yes, Nate has better feat.....LOL

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Originally posted by MrMind
well let's see

off the top of my head:

Hal korna bust

Hal was playing pool game with planets

Hal has beaten cyborg superman

Hal has beaten zod amped on two suns, same Zod who was beating the crap out of several green lanterns including Kilowog and Kyle Rayner, same Zod who one shotted Supergirl, beat the crap out of Cyborg Superman when his brain was hanging out.

Hal easily tanked on Mogo amped on both GLC and SC power, keep in mind few GLC members stopped a galaxy busting explosion in SCW

Hal destroyed sun eater

Hal went toe to toe with Sinestrollax which was skyfather+ level, the same sinestrollax who outright destroyed spectre, ripped the heart out of volthoom, destroyed a shield even white lantern kyle rayner couldn't

but yes, Nate has better feat.....LOL

I'm curious, which feats listed here do you think are above Nate? Becaaue I don't see any.

Pre Shaman Nate had the power to match the pheonix, create a Phoenix rapture, could match Franklin Richards, was stated to have the power to destroy all universes. Never mind the ability ro freeze and manipulate time and just flat out reality warp.

So yes Nate had better feata

Oct 8th, 2020 01:24 PM

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I'm curious, which feats listed here do you think are above Nate? Becaaue I don't see any.

Pre Shaman Nate had the power to match the pheonix, create a Phoenix rapture, could match Franklin Richards, was stated to have the power to destroy all universes. Never mind the ability ro freeze and manipulate time and just flat out reality warp.

So yes Nate had better feata

Most of these are statements. But sure, Hal shook entire emotional spectrum just creating his ring and shook Warworld from hundreds of space sectors away.

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^ that puts the discussion in a better ball park, still a discussion that could go either way, depending on context.

Oct 8th, 2020 01:39 PM

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No, it doesn't.

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No, it doesn't.

Ok, if you don't think that makes it debatable in Hal's favor then Nate is still to much.

After all emotional spectrum is space chees and completely unquantifiable. Warworld from hindreds of sectors away is the feat that is actually somewhat quantifiable and debatable and even that has an element of space cheese

Oct 9th, 2020 03:30 AM

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They literally measured Nate's power against the Dark Phoenix.

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and Hal killed Krona

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Oct 9th, 2020 04:56 AM

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Hi jacked! Dark Phoenix vs Krona

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They literally measured Nate's power against the Dark Phoenix.

They extrapolated. Not quite the same.

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Ok, if you don't think that makes it debatable in Hal's favor then Nate is still to much.

After all emotional spectrum is space chees and completely unquantifiable. Warworld from hindreds of sectors away is the feat that is actually somewhat quantifiable and debatable and even that has an element of space cheese

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They literally measured Nate's power against the Dark Phoenix.

That's cute.

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