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MrMind
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Who is the most powerful in these categories

Superman, Surfer, Goku compete in the following category
who's the winner in each

Travel Speed
Combat Speed
Strength
Versatility
Energy Projection
Intelligence
Fighting Skill
Esoteric Abilities

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Astner
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Travel Speed: Silver Surfer
Combat Speed: Goku or Superman
Strength: Superman
Versatility: Silver Surfer
Energy Projection: Sivler Surfer
Intelligence: Silver Surfer
Fighting Skill: Goku
Esoteric Abilities: Silver Surfer

Silver Surfer would take the Durability and Stamina categories as well.

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Re: Who is the most powerful in these categories

Superman, Surfer, Goku compete in the following category
who's the winner in each

Travel Speed - Surfer
Combat Speed - Goku by far
Strength - Goku by far
Versatility - Surfer by far
Energy Projection - Goku by far
Intelligence - Superman by far
Fighting Skill - Goku by far
Esoteric Abilities - Surfer

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Astner
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How is Superman more intelligent than the Silver Surfer?

Dec 27th, 2022 12:19 AM

carver9
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How isn't he is the question. Superman fts are just better than Surfers.

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Re: Who is the most powerful in these categories

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Originally posted by MrMind
~~Superman, Surfer, Goku compete in the following category~~ Lick my nuts
who's the winner in each

Travel Speed - HULK
Combat Speed - HULK
Strength - Catwoman or Prowler
Versatility - HULK
Energy Projection - Night Thrasher
Intelligence - Rhino
Fighting Skill - Wrecker
Esoteric Abilities - HULK

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Originally posted by Astner
Travel Speed: Silver Surfer
Combat Speed: Goku or Superman
Strength: Superman
Versatility: Silver Surfer
Energy Projection: Sivler Surfer
Intelligence: Silver Surfer
Fighting Skill: Goku
Esoteric Abilities: Silver Surfer

Silver Surfer would take the Durability and Stamina categories as well.

Surfer doesn't have more durability and stamina than Superman.

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Astner
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Originally posted by carver9
How isn't he is the question. Superman fts are just better than Surfers.

The Silver Surfer is virtually pansophic with his cosmic awareness.

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Originally posted by lawest9
Surfer doesn't have more durability and stamina than Superman.

He's surfing on supernovae and his the Power Cosmic is inexhaustible.

Dec 27th, 2022 01:25 AM

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What's Superman best combat showing (only combat, please. No cutting lettuce that can't fight back at super speed, please).

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Originally posted by carver9
What's Superman best combat showing (only combat, please. No cutting lettuce that can't fight back at super speed, please).

Still a far better feat than going against you.

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Originally posted by carver9
What's Superman best combat showing (only combat, please. No cutting lettuce that can't fight back at super speed, please).

I primarily judged it off the instances where he's said to be able to react to events on the nano- and picosecond scales.

But to adhere to the criteria you're asking for I think the most notable combat related speed feat is from Superman: Man of Tomorrow (2020) #16 where he moves people in-between taking punches frrom Darkseid without him noticing.

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But to be fair, it's very difficult to compare them because Dragon Ball isn't as nummerical, but at the same time they have these long chains of "this character can't even percieve the movements of that character, who can't percieve the movements of that character, etc." Vegeta vs Final Form Frieza is a great example of that.

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And then later.

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- Dragon Ball #305 and #306

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Delta1938
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Carter won't listen. I have literally given him examples for Superman he wanted and he acted like they weren't posted.

Or maybe I'm giving his reading comprehension too much credit and he just didn't know he got what he was asked for.

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Travel Speed: Surfer or Superman
Combat Speed: Goku or Superman
Strength: Superman
Versatility: Surfer
Energy Projection: Surfer
Intelligence: Surfer
Fighting Skill: Goku
Esoteric Abilities: Surfer

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Originally posted by Astner
The Silver Surfer is virtually pansophic with his cosmic awareness.

Knowledge isn't equivalent to intelligence.

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He's surfing on supernovae and his the Power Cosmic is inexhaustible.

Its really not. Surfer has been exhausted before, several times.

Travel Speed Superman
Combat Speed Goku
Strength Superman
Versatility Surfer
Energy Projection Goku
Intelligence Superman
Fighting Skill Goku
Esoteric Abilities Surfer

Overall power : Goku>Superman>>>>>>>>>Surfer (He's not even close to either)

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Astner
Travel Speed: Silver Surfer
Combat Speed: Goku or Superman
Strength: Superman
Versatility: Silver Surfer
Energy Projection: Sivler Surfer
Intelligence: Silver Surfer
Fighting Skill: Goku
Esoteric Abilities: Silver Surfer

Silver Surfer would take the Durability and Stamina categories as well.

Still peddling the same bullshit.

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carver9
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Astner
I primarily judged it off the instances where he's said to be able to react to events on the nano- and picosecond scales.

But to adhere to the criteria you're asking for I think the most notable combat related speed feat is from Superman: Man of Tomorrow (2020) #16 where he moves people in-between taking punches frrom Darkseid without him noticing.

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But to be fair, it's very difficult to compare them because Dragon Ball isn't as nummerical, but at the same time they have these long chains of "this character can't even percieve the movements of that character, who can't percieve the movements of that character, etc." Vegeta vs Final Form Frieza is a great example of that.

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And then later.

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- Dragon Ball #305 and #306

That's a nice showing of him moving people at super speed but that doesnt compare at all to Goku moving faster than beings that also possess super speed. So fast they don't even see him moving (Jeice and Burta).

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Delta1938
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Originally posted by carver9
That's a nice showing of him moving people at super speed but that doesnt compare at all to Goku moving faster than beings that also possess super speed. So fast they don't even see him moving (Jeice and Burta).

Are you saying Darkseid does not have super speed?

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abhilegend
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by carver9
That's a nice showing of him moving people at super speed but that doesnt compare at all to Goku moving faster than beings that also possess super speed. So fast they don't even see him moving (Jeice and Burta).

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by carver9
That's a nice showing of him moving people at super speed but that doesnt compare at all to Goku moving faster than beings that also possess super speed. So fast they don't even see him moving (Jeice and Burta).

Darkseid, when not at full power (IIRC), was so fast he astounded WW with his combat speed.

Hmmm.

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Travel Speed Superman
Combat Speed Superman
Strength Superman
Versatility Silver Surfer
Energy Projection Goku
Intelligence Superman
Fighting Skill Goku
Esoteric Abilities Silver Surfer

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