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The fastest flight speed?

Who in comics has the fastest flight speed? i'm talking about flying speed feats that are actually quantifiable. no ambiguous bullshit.

No teleportation is allowed obviously.
lets cap this at trans-tier characters and below.

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Azrael 1M's feat always comes to mind in threads like these:
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On average, Pluto and Mars are ~3.5 billion miles apart, and Azrael 1M covered that distance in a nanosecond. Iirc, that works out to something like trillionS of times c.


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Gladiator flew through Galaxies in the span of a second.

https://imgur.io/a/wTIah3O

At least 2 Galaxies based off the map of the Galaxies shown here...

https://i.imgur.com/LgFJ4ka.jpg

But let's just split this ft in half. Let's just say he flew past one Galaxy even though it says many. Our Galaxy to the next Galaxy is 662,000,000,000,000,000 km. Gladiator flew that in the blink of an eye, 100 milliseconds. Per calculations I've seen on comicvine, that puts him in the 100s of trillions.


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Gladiator flew through Galaxies in the span of a second.

https://imgur.io/a/wTIah3O

At least 2 Galaxies based off the map of the Galaxies shown here...

https://i.imgur.com/LgFJ4ka.jpg

But let's just split this ft in half. Let's just say he flew past one Galaxy even though it says many. Our Galaxy to the next Galaxy is 662,000,000,000,000,000 km. Gladiator flew that in the blink of an eye, 100 milliseconds. Per calculations I've seen on comicvine, that puts him in the 100s of trillions.


Thats a good one thumb up


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Originally posted by Galan007
Azrael 1M's feat always comes to mind in threads like these:
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On average, Pluto and Mars are ~3.5 billion miles apart, and Azrael 1M covered that distance in a nanosecond. Iirc, that works out to something like trillionS of times c.
this works out to about 19 trillion x the speed of light. and very quantifiable.

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Gladiator flew through Galaxies in the span of a second.

https://imgur.io/a/wTIah3O

At least 2 Galaxies based off the map of the Galaxies shown here...

https://i.imgur.com/LgFJ4ka.jpg

But let's just split this ft in half. Let's just say he flew past one Galaxy even though it says many. Our Galaxy to the next Galaxy is 662,000,000,000,000,000 km. Gladiator flew that in the blink of an eye, 100 milliseconds. Per calculations I've seen on comicvine, that puts him in the 100s of trillions.
just implies that gladiator may be able to cross a galaxy in the blink of an eye. still is a great feat but kind of ambiguous since we don't actually know his starting point.

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this works out to about 19 trillion x the speed of light. and very quantifiable.

just implies that gladiator may be able to cross a galaxy in the blink of an eye. still is a great feat but kind of ambiguous since we don't actually know his starting point.


He flew past Galaxies. I only used one Galaxy in my description. I low balled the ft. So the starting point for this is just one Galaxy away even though he crossed many.


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He flew past Galaxies. I only used one Galaxy in my description. I low balled the ft. So the starting point for this is just one Galaxy away even though he crossed many.


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Superman flew from the edge of the universe to Earth in 60 days.
The edge of the universe from Earth is more than 100 trillion lightyears.
The DC universe expanded to 60 trillion light years in half a second.
It's been billions of years since then. So the edge should be well beyond a quadrillion light years away.

Here are some facts
The expansion of the universe at its edge is speeding up Now.
At 50 trillion light years away, the speed of the expansion is thousands of times faster than light. So at 100 trillion light years away then the speed is double.
It's been billions of years since the big bang so the Universe is possibly billions of billions of billions of times that size.

So at just 200 trillion light years away, Superman beats Gladiator's feat.
Just divide 200 trillion light years by 60 days. You would get about 1 order of magnitude above what Gladiator did.


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Superman flew from the edge of the universe to Earth in 60 days.
The edge of the universe from Earth is more than 100 trillion lightyears.
The DC universe expanded to 60 trillion light years in half a second.
It's been billions of years since then. So the edge should be well beyond a quadrillion light years away.

Here are some facts
The expansion of the universe at its edge is speeding up Now.
At 50 trillion light years away, the speed of the expansion is thousands of times faster than light. So at 100 trillion light years away then the speed is double.
It's been billions of years since the big bang so the Universe is possibly billions of billions of billions of times that size.

So at just 200 trillion light years away, Superman beats Gladiator's feat.
Just divide 200 trillion light years by 60 days. You would get about 1 order of magnitude above what Gladiator did.


Superman went through a portal. Great showing overall though. You should probably read the comic. That's why more respectable posters don't post the ft. Only person that use it is abhi because he close his eyes to the things that happened before the showing.


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The edge of the universe from Earth is more than 100 trillion lightyears.

It's kind of interesting to me that people still reference this quote from the Imperiex arc. This was long before Morrison's Multiverse Map was even a thing, the DC Multiverse has been revised a few times since then, so I'm not sure how reliable it is, let alone how applicable it is to the New 52.

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Superman went through a portal.

He's not talking about that, he's talking about the New 52 feat, when Superman returned after he and Braniac fell into a black hole. Superman mentioned that he traveled from the "other side of the universe" (I can't remember if this was the exact phrasing) in sixty days. I don't think that it was meant to be taken literally, but some people like to think it was.

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Yes Astner. Come through with the knowledge! wink thumb up


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My issue with h1a8's comment is that it heavily relies on questionable interpretations and cross-referencing. If you look at the Azrael's and Gladiator's feats they're very clear-cut. It's all there in the scene, there's no wiggle room: this is what happened.

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It's kind of interesting to me that people still reference this quote from the Imperiex arc. This was long before Morrison's Multiverse Map was even a thing, the DC Multiverse has been revised a few times since then, so I'm not sure how reliable it is, let alone how applicable it is to the New 52.


He's not talking about that, he's talking about the New 52 feat, when Superman returned after he and Braniac fell into a black hole. Superman mentioned that he traveled from the "other side of the universe" (I can't remember if this was the exact phrasing) in sixty days. I don't think that it was meant to be taken literally, but some people like to think it was.

Why not?

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"The other side of the universe" is generally considered figurative expression because it makes presuppositions about the shape of the universe that we don't know are true.

Could it be true regardless? Sure, it's fiction. But I don't like to subscribe explanations that rely on unwarranted assumptions.

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Originally posted by carver9
Gladiator flew through Galaxies in the span of a second.

https://imgur.io/a/wTIah3O

At least 2 Galaxies based off the map of the Galaxies shown here...

https://i.imgur.com/LgFJ4ka.jpg

But let's just split this ft in half. Let's just say he flew past one Galaxy even though it says many. Our Galaxy to the next Galaxy is 662,000,000,000,000,000 km. Gladiator flew that in the blink of an eye, 100 milliseconds. Per calculations I've seen on comicvine, that puts him in the 100s of trillions.

laughing out loud

According to that map, Shiar galaxy is closer to Andromeda Galaxy. Superman himself can cross galaxies in a single panel.

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Originally posted by Astner
"The other side of the universe" is generally considered figurative expression because it makes presuppositions about the shape of the universe that we don't know are true.

Could it be true regardless? Sure, it's fiction. But I don't like to subscribe explanations that rely on unwarranted assumptions.


There's nothing to indicate it was metaphorical or figurative.


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Not the only time he has flown across the universe either.

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Originally posted by Astner
My issue with h1a8's comment is that it heavily relies on questionable interpretations and cross-referencing. If you look at the Azrael's and Gladiator's feats they're very clear-cut. It's all there in the scene, there's no wiggle room: this is what happened.


Questionable interpretation? How?
If that's true then so is Gladiator's. "Blink of an eye" is a figure of speech and can mean any amount of time from a human blink to several minutes. It goes both ways.

Tbh Azrael's feat is somewhat questionable too (I can be mistaken though). He could have been traveling for an unknown amount of time before he made the statement. We only see him AFTER he began his journey to Mars (somewhere between) and not at the start. Plus he states, " another nanosecond" which could mean other nanoseconds have already passed.

I'm not sure if any feat (unless it states speed or both distance and time) isn't somewhat questionable.


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Tbh Azrael's feat is somewhat questionable too (I can be mistaken though). He could have been traveling for an unknown amount of time before he made the statement. We only see him AFTER he began his journey to Mars (somewhere between) and not at the start. Plus he states, " another nanosecond" which could mean other nanoseconds have already passed.
If you look at the sequence...
First panel: Azrael is still on Pluto.
Second Panel: Azrael begins his "flight" to Mars.
Third panel: Azrael arrives on Mars.

IOW, the "another nanosecond" statement logically just describes his flight time between those two planets -- and since we know the distance between said worlds averages ~3.5 billion miles, that honestly gives us one of the more clear-cut flight/travel speed feats that you're likely to get in comics.


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Originally posted by Astner
It's kind of interesting to me that people still reference this quote from the Imperiex arc. This was long before Morrison's Multiverse Map was even a thing, the DC Multiverse has been revised a few times since then, so I'm not sure how reliable it is, let alone how applicable it is to the New 52.


He's not talking about that, he's talking about the New 52 feat, when Superman returned after he and Braniac fell into a black hole. Superman mentioned that he traveled from the "other side of the universe" (I can't remember if this was the exact phrasing) in sixty days. I don't think that it was meant to be taken literally, but some people like to think it was.


What's the issue number?


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According to that map, Shiar galaxy is closer to Andromeda Galaxy. Superman himself can cross galaxies in a single panel.

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There's nothing to indicate it was metaphorical or figurative.


The scene literally states he crossed GALAXIES. I know you have a hard time with words, but GalaxIES mean more than one. I lowballed the ft and just used ONE Galaxy.


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Originally posted by Galan007
If you look at the sequence...
First panel: Azrael is still on Pluto.
Second Panel: Azrael begins his "flight" to Mars.
Third panel: Azrael arrives on Mars.

IOW, the "another nanosecond" statement logically just describes his flight time between those two planets -- and since we know the distance between said worlds averages ~3.5 billion miles, that honestly gives us one of the more clear-cut flight/travel speed feats that you're likely to get in comics.


But i don't see in the 2nd panel where he BEGINS his flight to Mars. Like I said, I can be wrong. It looks as if he already started his flight (he's in mid-flight) when he makes his statement. Now don't get me wrong, it could've taken 2 nanoseconds (which is still Hella impressive). I just cant see where he begins his flight from the art while making his statement. It seems he made his statement AFTER he took off.
Plus he says, "Nothing doing on Earth or Pluto" while in flight and before saying "oh well, another nanosecond...."
Usually in speech, we would say "another second, minute, etc" to mean some time has already elasped. The word "another" indicates additional.


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