This is h2h only with all of Diana's superhuman abilities gone, nothing left but her meele fighting skills and Amazon training, none of their weapons allowed, who wins?
Smurph probably thinks it's spite towards Diana and Siilt towards Steve I bet.
I mean Smurph is the respectable one while Stilt is a deluded Marvel fanboy, so those are my guesses.
Me, I say peak human Diana edges out Steve. More experience, and she beat Amazon warriors as a child who had far far more experience than she to earn the Wonder Woman title.
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Wonder Woman has a TREMENDOUS skill edge on Roger's here.
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^ Co-signed, I would like to know as well. Critical analysis here then... if Wonder Woman were suddenly reduced to a frail 85 lbs frail, asthmathic mortal body... how would she perform against super soldiers in straight H2H combat??? Because I can post scans of how Steve Rogers would perform...
Skill is mostly subjective. Expert's opinions hold more weight than non experts.
I'm an expert in fighting.
From what I've seen, WW's attack and defense seem as efficient and as effectives as Cap's.
From her ability to block, dodge, and parry to her ability to throw an effective kick, elbow, pressure strike, etc to countering all seems on par with Cap to me.
Like I said, subjective. So we have to agree to disagree.
Total bullshit "feats", Bullseye is FAR more skilled yet gets nerfed to hell so Stillman can argue Castle is "skilled".
I'm sure you can post scan after scan of Cap winning, just like he won against Iron Fist or Shang Chi.. That's called PIS btw.
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To add to this
Using ABC logic is faulty since both have superpowers which enhances their strength, speed, durability, etc.
We have to compare their actual movements against others.
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Didn't mean to come off as a jerk, this is just a huge pet peeve of mine, and makes scan comparisons virtually impossible.
I mean come on, we all know Matt Murdoch is >>>>>>> Frank Castle in skills. The fact is Bullseye is a peer of Matt, Frank should get blized to death by someone on his level. But NOOOOO, Frank has to win their fights because he's the F'n Punisher.
Castle, Logan, Steve, Batman, all of them are like Hulk Hogan at the top of WWF, they'll always beat B listers even if on paper they're not supposed to.
You asking for comparisons between Wonder Woman and Steve Rogers is like asking for comparisons between Stone Cold Steve Ausin and Kurt Angle, of COURSE Austin will have a much better record. (YES, Wonder Woman is a B lister. At best.)
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