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Captain America vs Wonder Woman w/twist

This is h2h only with all of Diana's superhuman abilities gone, nothing left but her meele fighting skills and Amazon training, none of their weapons allowed, who wins?

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In favor of whom?

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Again......no superhuman strength speed or durability for D I Ana but peak human level only with her fighting skills only.

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Again......no superhuman strength speed or durability for D I Ana but peak human level only with her fighting skills only.



Smurph probably thinks it's spite towards Diana and Siilt towards Steve I bet.


I mean Smurph is the respectable one while Stilt is a deluded Marvel fanboy, so those are my guesses.


Me, I say peak human Diana edges out Steve. More experience, and she beat Amazon warriors as a child who had far far more experience than she to earn the Wonder Woman title.


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In favor of whom?
Maybe you should re-read the last time you made this thread

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...mp;pagenumber=1

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So much for that theory.


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Maybe you should re-read the last time you made this thread

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...mp;pagenumber=1



Black Widow would totally lose.

Wonder Woman has a TREMENDOUS skill edge on Roger's here.


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Smurph probably thinks it's spite towards Diana and Siilt towards Steve I bet.


I mean Smurph is the respectable one while Stilt is a deluded Marvel fanboy, so those are my guesses.


Me, I say peak human Diana edges out Steve. More experience, and she beat Amazon warriors as a child who had far far more experience than she to earn the Wonder Woman title.


Stilt is delusional? Hmm, what do you think of Lia Thomas? What about the trans women in the MMA fighting regular women?

Steve oneshots.


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Steve isn't powerless though. She would get stomped here.
Now make strength and speed and durability equal and it's a good fight.


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Stilt is delusional? Hmm, what do you think of Lia Thomas? What about the trans women in the MMA fighting regular women?

Steve oneshots.


Not real women.

But neither is Diana, she's made of clay. stick out tongue


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Steve isn't powerless though. She would get stomped here.
Now make strength and speed and durability equal and it's a good fight.
What skill feat makes her a good fight for Steve?

Scans or issue number please.

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^ Co-signed, I would like to know as well.
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Wonder Woman has a TREMENDOUS skill edge on Roger's here.
Critical analysis here then... if Wonder Woman were suddenly reduced to a frail 85 lbs frail, asthmathic mortal body... how would she perform against super soldiers in straight H2H combat??? Because I can post scans of how Steve Rogers would perform...


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What skill feat makes her a good fight for Steve?

Scans or issue number please.


Skill is mostly subjective. Expert's opinions hold more weight than non experts.
I'm an expert in fighting.
From what I've seen, WW's attack and defense seem as efficient and as effectives as Cap's.
From her ability to block, dodge, and parry to her ability to throw an effective kick, elbow, pressure strike, etc to countering all seems on par with Cap to me.

Like I said, subjective. So we have to agree to disagree.


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What skill feat makes her a good fight for Steve?

Scans or issue number please.



What, like how Frank Castle beats on Bullseye?

Total bullshit "feats", Bullseye is FAR more skilled yet gets nerfed to hell so Stillman can argue Castle is "skilled".

I'm sure you can post scan after scan of Cap winning, just like he won against Iron Fist or Shang Chi.. That's called PIS btw.


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Skill is mostly subjective. Expert's opinions hold more weight than non experts.
I'm an expert in fighting.
From what I've seen, WW's attack and defense seem as efficient and as effectives as Cap's.
From her ability to block, dodge, and parry to her ability to throw an effective kick, elbow, pressure strike, etc to countering all seems on par with Cap to me.

Like I said, subjective. So we have to agree to disagree.


To add to this
Using ABC logic is faulty since both have superpowers which enhances their strength, speed, durability, etc.
We have to compare their actual movements against others.


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To add to this
Using ABC logic is faulty since both have superpowers which enhances their strength, speed, durability, etc.
We have to compare their actual movements against others.



I agree with H1's argument against H1 here.


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Didn't mean to come off as a jerk, this is just a huge pet peeve of mine, and makes scan comparisons virtually impossible.

I mean come on, we all know Matt Murdoch is >>>>>>> Frank Castle in skills. The fact is Bullseye is a peer of Matt, Frank should get blized to death by someone on his level. But NOOOOO, Frank has to win their fights because he's the F'n Punisher.


Castle, Logan, Steve, Batman, all of them are like Hulk Hogan at the top of WWF, they'll always beat B listers even if on paper they're not supposed to.


You asking for comparisons between Wonder Woman and Steve Rogers is like asking for comparisons between Stone Cold Steve Ausin and Kurt Angle, of COURSE Austin will have a much better record. (YES, Wonder Woman is a B lister. At best.)


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Skill is mostly subjective. Expert's opinions hold more weight than non experts.
I'm an expert in fighting.
laughing out loud

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