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Wonder Man
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Fantastic Four vs. Proteus

Who wins the scene 🎬?

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Like....I am actually thinking the F4 could win this.

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No they cant.

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Why not?

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They shouldn't but the bullsh|t surrounding Sue is thick. Without plot armor, he warps them into tampons.

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They shouldn't but the bullsh|t surrounding Sue is thick. Without plot armor, he warps them into tampons.

If Magneto can hold and beat Proteus, Sue - who has held a Cosmic Cube back subconsciously - can do the same.

Nobody says the bullshit surrounding Magneto is thick.

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Magneto didn't really hold Proteus, did he?

He took control of his electrons and dispersed him

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Magneto didn't really hold Proteus, did he?

He took control of his electrons and dispersed him

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I'm missing the word 'back' - so Magneto held Proteus back, then beat him.

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"Close enough to the magnetic spectrum". Key words there. Sue gets turned into a diet coke.

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Well they beat Beyonder with hyperspace in the original Secret Wars. Mister Fantastic should be able to maintain the advantage.

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"Close enough to the magnetic spectrum". Key words there. Sue gets turned into a diet coke.

She's blocked a Cosmic Cube for an entire night. She's blocked the Ultimate Nullifier. She has blocked the TVA's reality-rewriting. She's blocked Doom firing Big Bang energy. She's blocked weapons that were killing Eternity. She's blocked weapons that punch through time and create white holes. I have the scans if you want to see them.

Sue doesn't rely on needing to understand the energy to block it, unlike Magneto - this is actually showing how she's more powerful than him in this regard.

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I'm missing the word 'back' - so Magneto held Proteus back, then beat him.

What fight was this? I remember something a while back where they said Proteus had split himself into like 5 or more people and wasn't at full power. It was Magneto that mentioned Protues sliced himself up like bread and that each piece wasn't as powerful/infinite as the original or something.

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What fight was this? I remember something a while back where they said Proteus had split himself into like 5 or more people and wasn't at full power. It was Magneto that mentioned Protues sliced himself up like bread and that each piece wasn't as powerful/infinite as the original or something.

It's the same fight. Then Magneto pulls Proteus apart.

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Point here is that Proteus is still energy - and Sue can block energy, without needing to understand and study it like Magneto needs to.

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He wasn't at full power there. Also, Proteus has owned Magneto before...

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He wasn't at full power there. Also, Proteus has owned Magneto before...

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We know that Sue's shields can block matter manipulators, doe. and this was when she was younger, so weaker:

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And again, Sue has blocked reality warping like the Cosmic Cube, for an entire night, even subconsciously. The UN. The Time-Variance Authority.

So we know she can block matter manipulating energy (Sersi) and can block power sources higher than Proteus.

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Rachel tried to beat beyonder with heat death and failed. An experience can trace the past and lock the proof so the lesson is prime and the number is multiplied forward. Then the accuracy can design and execute. Then executive function can improve the mindset and knock out. Then the look is normalized and the solution is apparent. Then the task is willing and capable so that right wins over might.

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Then you have realitivity.

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I'm missing the word 'back' - so Magneto held Proteus back, then beat him.

ah yeah, I do think Sue could block Proteus thumb up