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50-50....very nice people...I am sure you both have the right answer
Well lucifer is the Light Bringer....but what do you mean wit what is the Morning Star...like Shakya said it is Venus....do you mean in the Bible it says some time that one of either is the Star?
Lucifer is Jerome' s direct translation in his Vulgate of the Septuagint' s Greek translation, as heosphoros, "morning star" or "day star," literally "bringer of the dawn" (Isaiah 14:12).
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"I am the root and offspring of David, and the bright and morning star." (Revelation 22:16)
This verse presents the most shocking revelation in the entire Bible. On the very last page, it reveals Jesus as the "bright and morning star". In other words, Lucifer-- Satan!
In Isaiah 14:12, St. Jerome, translated the Hebrew "morning star" into the Latin term "Lucifer" (light bearer), a name commonly ascribed to Satan by Christians, and represents the fallen star, an ancient symbol for the fallen or evil one. The mourning star actually appears as the planet Venus, the brightest "star" in the sky (but the ancients did not know about planets). Venus always appears low on the horizon, thus it looked like a fallen star (fallen angel) to the believers.
Although the Isaiah verse describes the fallen king of Babylon, Christians have, for centuries, ascribed Satan as taking many forms. And what more powerful form could an evil being take than to pretend himself as the saviour of the world? This would certainly explain the hate filled verses attributed to Jesus and the blind followers who inherit ignorance. Thus, a conclusion, based on Christian beliefs of Satan, and the belief in the "inerrancy" of the Bible, one must conclude that Jesus has revealed himself as Satan!
The scriptures in Isaiah also is symbolic to the fall of Satan as described elsewhere in the New Testament Both from Heaven and at the end of his reign on earth. Lucifer was a bearer of light when he was an angel of Heaven according to the Bible but became the Prince of Darkness after his fall. I asume then Jesus is called the bright morning star because it is said of Him to be the light of the earth. This to me is symbolic of hope and giving direction.
Ezekiel 28:13 of the KJV and NKJV seem to hint that Satan was involved with music in Heaven. The two Scripture passages that describe Satan before he fell are Ezekiel 28:12-19 and Isaiah 14:12-15. Satan was the “anointed cherub” (Ezekiel 28:14). He was adorned with every precious jewel imaginable (Ezekiel 28:13). He was “the model of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty” (Ezekiel 28:12b). Likely he was the highest of all angels. He was persuasive enough to convince one-third of the angels to join him in his rebellion (Revelation 12:4). Even after his fall from heaven, not even Michael the archangel dares to stand up to him without the Lord’s help (Jude 9). Satan fell because of pride. He did not like being “second best”. He wanted to be God: “You said in your heart, ‘I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain’” (Isaiah 14:13).
Was Satan the head musician? I cannot answer that. Scripture does not say enough about what his duties were in heaven. Considering the fact that the angels constantly worship God (Isaiah 6:3; Revelation 4:8), it is possible that Satan led in worship. For Satan to rebel despite having such an exalted position and close relationship with God – the devil is surely due his eternal destiny (Revelation 20:10).
All of this courtesy of a FAQ section of a Christian site. But, I think when in Isaiah, when they refer to him as the morning star and son of dawn...that means he was most adorned, and being there since the beginning of time.
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