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stop_sign
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would you go to heaven if you committed suicide?

what do you think...if you believe in heaven and you are "saved" and you commit suicide do you think you would go to heaven or would you be sent to hell.

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1. wrong thread
2. no


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try the religion forum...


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There is no heaven


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There's no hell either.....

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I personally don't believe in Heaven or Hell, but apparently you go to Hell if you commit suicide. It's the only unforgivable sin.

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I personally don't believe in Heaven or Hell, but apparently you go to Hell if you commit suicide. It's the only unforgivable sin.



evil face Burn in hell sucka's


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I personally don't believe in Heaven or Hell, but apparently you go to Hell if you commit suicide. It's the only unforgivable sin.


Great, so homosexuals go to Heaven. smile

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Great, so homosexuals go to Heaven. smile


Besides there probably no being a heaven they have edvery chance to do so indeed...at least in the Christian Religions

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I personally don't believe in Heaven or Hell, but apparently you go to Hell if you commit suicide. It's the only unforgivable sin.


But is it really Or os it just hard to ask for forgiveness after killing yourself?

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what do you think...if you believe in heaven and you are "saved" and you commit suicide do you think you would go to heaven or would you be sent to hell.


Anyway, talk to people in the Religion Forum they will be glad to help (tell their Bullshit propaganda (atheists as well as religious people)) you.


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I personally don't believe in Heaven or Hell, but apparently you go to Hell if you commit suicide. It's the only unforgivable sin.

Wrong, in my eyes. Murder is pretty much unforgivable.
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what do you think...if you believe in heaven and you are "saved" and you commit suicide do you think you would go to heaven or would you be sent to hell.

No. You will NOT go to heaven if you commit suicide. Those who commit suicide are sent to the deepest pits of hell.


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No. You will NOT go to heaven if you commit suicide. Those who commit suicide are sent to the deepest pits of hell
says who? and how can they back up and prove that?

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says who? and how can they back up and prove that?

Says me and my religion.
My belief, and the Catholic-Christian religion have all their minds to back it up. I'm not trying to make anyone believe that, I'm just stating MY own religious beliefs, just like everyone else is with their "God Is Not Real" crap.


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She's got a point, finti.


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Says me and my religion.
and your proof`s of it being actual and real are?

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My belief, and the Catholic-Christian religion have all their minds to back it up
yeah well the Nazis thought their belifs to be right too? And they backed it up too, but what does that prove besides that they agreed on their doctrine and so it is with catholics and their doctrine

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and your proof`s of it being actual and real are?

yeah well the Nazis thought their belifs to be right too? And they backed it up too, but what does that prove besides that they agreed on their doctrine and so it is with catholics and their doctrine

Like I said before, our beliefs!
Yes but Nazi's are stupid. They judge someone by their religion, which I am not doing (I'm just giving out my opinion to everyone else, as they are to me), all of my friends at school are Athiests but that does not change anything between us. People have their beliefs, I have my own.


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Yes but Nazi's are stupid. They judge someone by their religion, which I am not doing
yeah but you aint representative for how the catholic church are and have been, and like the nazi`s catholichs judge people by denominations and religions

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The beauty of religion is that it does not require the people who believe in it to give "proof". They get to believe in it because...They want to.

I'm not religious at all. But in Canada (and the US) people have a right to believe what they want. And I respect that.

If someone believes that killing yourself = Hell because thats what they believe. Then thats that. They don't have to prove anything. Its a moral choice that they feel is correct.


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The beauty of religion is that it does not require the people who believe in it to give "proof". They get to believe in it because...They want to
which also makes it flawed

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I'm not religious at all. But in Canada (and the US) people have a right to believe what they want. And I respect that
so do they in the majority of the world today

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If someone believes that killing yourself = Hell because thats what they believe. Then thats that. They don't have to prove anything. Its a moral choice that they feel is correct
problems starts when they tell others about going to hell

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In Christian religions, we do believe that heaven and hell exist.
We also believe in two types of sins: venial and mortal. A venial sin is something everyday, lying to your parents, perhaps. You can go to heaven, through purgaroty, if you have venial sins on your soul.

A mortal sin, however, is a more serious sin. Three things must be present for a sin to be considered mortal: 1) It must be a serious matter, 2) You must know that what you're doing is wrong, 3) and You must have full consent to committing the act.

1) Suicide is murder, a very serious matter.
2) By asking on a forum, you obviously know that it's wrong.
3) Once more, by asking about it on a forum, you're showing that you're not being forced into the act, so you have full consent.

Mortal sins are forvigable if one is truly sorry for them, but when you committ suicide you don't have a chance to repent. With an unforgiven mortal sin marking your soul and tearing you away from God, you cannot go to heaven.

That's years of Catholic school talking. If, stop sign, you're Catholic or Christian, there's your answer as the Church has it.


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In Christian religions, we do believe that heaven and hell exist.
We also believe in two types of sins: venial and mortal. A venial sin is something everyday, lying to your parents, perhaps. You can go to heaven, through purgaroty, if you have venial sins on your soul.

A mortal sin, however, is a more serious sin. Three things must be present for a sin to be considered mortal: 1) It must be a serious matter, 2) You must know that what you're doing is wrong, 3) and You must have full consent to committing the act.

1) Suicide is murder, a very serious matter.
2) By asking on a forum, you obviously know that it's wrong.
3) Once more, by asking about it on a forum, you're showing that you're not being forced into the act, so you have full consent.

Mortal sins are forvigable if one is truly sorry for them, but when you committ suicide you don't have a chance to repent. With an unforgiven mortal sin marking your soul and tearing you away from God, you cannot go to heaven.

That's years of Catholic school talking. If, stop sign, you're Catholic or Christian, there's your answer as the Church has it.
Though sin categories are not mentioned in the bible neither is purgatory. According to scripture sin is just sin. Though there was some influence throughout history with writings such as Dante and famous pictures of the levels of hell.

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