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Justbyfaith
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Worried Are you not believing or not receiving?

I am convinced that those who say they don't believe in God, simply refuse to receive Him. The scriptures below validate this statement:

"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them."

Romans 1:18-19suppress the truth what may be known of God is manifest in them


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Re: Are you not believing or not receiving?

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I am convinced that those who say they don't believe in God, simply refuse to receive Him.[/U]


Yes, this is absolutely true. You do not believe that atheism is correct. Are you refusing to receive it? I would say yes. Does this impact the truthfulness of either side of the debate? No, they are dependant on personal belief.

I believe in God. But when interacting with people that do not, I attempt to look at the issue from their side as well.


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Re: Are you not believing or not receiving?

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Originally posted by Justbyfaith
I am convinced that those who say they don't believe in God, simply refuse to receive Him. The scriptures below validate this statement:

"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them."

Romans 1:18-19suppress the truth what may be known of God is manifest in them


If god is a "Him" then this god is limited.


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Re: Are you not believing or not receiving?

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Originally posted by Justbyfaith
I am convinced that those who say they don't believe in God, simply refuse to receive Him. The scriptures below validate this statement:

"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them."

Romans 1:18-19suppress the truth what may be known of God is manifest in them

Can' t you bear the thought of others holding different beliefs?


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Yep. I refuse to believe on something that doesnt exist. You cant receive anything from something that doesnt exist.


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Can' t you bear the thought of others holding different beliefs?


Hi Storm,

I held many different beliefs before. I have no problem with people who have different beliefs. The point of this thread is to show that God has revealed Himself and in His love for us He has given us the ability to have the freedom to choose to not accept Him. He has done this so that we can't say "I never had an opportunity to know Him". He did not make us robots. It's as simple as that.


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MATTHEW 9:36

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Hi Storm,

I held many different beliefs before. I have no problem with people who have different beliefs. The point of this thread is to show that God has revealed Himself and in His love for us He has given us the ability to have the freedom to choose to not accept Him. He has done this so that we can't say "I never had an opportunity to know Him". He did not make us robots. It's as simple as that.


But what about those people who believe that God is within each of us and that you cannot be separated from God, because we are part of God? Your idea of a choice, to people like me, is silly. I am not rejecting anything, there is nothing to be saved from.


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I don't think I understand the point to this thread.

Is it just saying if you don't believe in God you are going to hell because you had the choice whether or not to believe?


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I don't think I understand the point to this thread.

Is it just saying if you don't believe in God you are going to hell because you had the choice whether or not to believe?


I think you got it. Not a friendly thread.

If I said to you "be my friend and I'll be good to you, but if you choose not to be my friend, I will hurt you forever", would you want to be my friend?


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I think you got it. Not a friendly thread.

If I said to you "be my friend and I'll be good to you, but if you choose not to be my friend, I will hurt you forever", would you want to be my friend?
Yes eek! but in fear evil face

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Are you not believing or not receiving?

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But what about those people who believe that God is within each of us and that you cannot be separated from God, because we are part of God? Your idea of a choice, to people like me, is silly. I am not rejecting anything, there is nothing to be saved from.



Shakeyamunison,

This is not my idea. I just showed you what the bible says.


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Free will= Follow jesus or burn forever in hell with no cookies laughing

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Shakeyamunison,

This is not my idea. I just showed you what the bible says.


Maybe the bible is wrong. wink


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Originally posted by Regret
I don't think I understand the point to this thread.

Is it just saying if you don't believe in God you are going to hell because you had the choice whether or not to believe?


The verse I think says that God will someday punish sin in this world. I think the verse says that people, "suppress the truth" of God in thier own hearts. I am sure we all (including myself) will be accountable for what we do or don't do with Him because he has made Himself known to us.


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MATTHEW 9:36

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Originally posted by Justbyfaith
This is not my idea. I just showed you what the bible says.

Hence his username, just by faith.


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You only live once. But if you live it right, once is enough. Wrong. We only die once, we live every day!
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Maybe the bible is wrong. wink


Well, like I said on previous threads Shaky. Do a very in depth investigation and see if it's so for yourself. Don't listen to me. Check it out on your own.


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Hence his username, just by faith.
Does storm believe in the devil eek!

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No, I don' t believe in a literal anthropomorphic deity.


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You only live once. But if you live it right, once is enough. Wrong. We only die once, we live every day!
Make poverty history.

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No, I don' t believe in a literal anthropomorphic deity.
Not when you say it like that

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Well, like I said on previous threads Shaky. Do a very in depth investigation and see if it's so for yourself. Don't listen to me. Check it out on your own.


I don't need anything from the bible. I have no questions that I haven't found the answer to, in the bible.

I have found a better religion for me, then Christianity. It my be right for you, and I am glad if it is, but it only means suffering to me. I now seek my trues from the Lotus sutra. cool


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