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Marxman
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God vs Satan II

Due to the immaturity in the last thread it was moved to the OTF. So hopefully after I make this new one we can have a real discussion on this.

ASSUME God and Satan are real. There is this unseen dimension parallel with our own. God's angels and Satan's demons are constantly "recruiting" for their army in a final battle. The only difference is that God has a better publicist. He's promised us all paradise at world's end after he has won this war. He's also said that Satan would bring nothing but destruction. He's also said that this thing is pretty much a wrap. He's got it in the bag. You just need to choose the right side.

But what if he doesn't? What if its actually still a toss up and in actuality the winning side is the one that will achieve paradise and the other is the one sent to eternal damnation?

Discuss (maturely if you don't mind).


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Clearly God smile

If we loose the war at least we fought for the good big grin

What matters is not how you fight but why angel


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LMAO WTF?

And nice sig Cowgirl.


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Well if we actually lived in a world of demons, fairies, spaghetti monsters, God and the Devil....

God would win.

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Satan's got all the killers on his squad. All the liars and the cheaters. The nuclear experts and those who would do anything to win.

God's got suicide bombers.


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Demons>Angels

the Devil would have all the monstrous killers and murderers of humanity on his side, wheras none of his saintly folk "could" fight lest they get corrupted through acts of wickedness, because even if your doing it for rightiousness your still stabbing someone/something

plus Devil has Demons ,far more terrible than Gods legions even if they can dodge the corruption, they still face some beastly beings, only diffrence is that while Angels are used to sitting around blissfully in heaven, the weather/hell beaten demons of the dark would be more than ready for any battle and more than prepared to go into the fray

then it comes down to God and Satan themselves, Satan has shown many times his power, wheras God only speaks of it, there are many accounts of Satan corrupting, Satan has done this, Satan has done that, Satan has messed up all Gods plans because he started the original sin, not to menstion God is pictured as either a bright light in the sky or in a humioid form, an elderly white haired man, or usually an elderly man in white robes wheras Satan is a monstrous, often tall musculer entity with horns and sometimes an attitude, either viscious or showing intellect and arrogence, regardless, old man<tall musculer horned entity

plus God cannot win, not without losing everything, simply because there is evil inside everyone, there are many types of wickedness even if it is by accident or you do not realise it, you could simply cause hate within others because of what your doing, even if what your doing is supposed to be for good, its still wickedness, so he would have to wipe out the human race as well if he would get rid of evil


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so, assuming its the 3o god the fight is already over


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Now, assuming Satan wins simply because he's evil is wrong. I mean, just because his army is more "savage" doesn't mean they're better. Those arch angels are serious. Think of like in King Arthur, when the barbarians fight the knights and the knights win.


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Assuming they exist, there is no contest.

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Satan would have just about every advantage except for the personal power possessed by the leader. And maybe numbers.


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that personal power being omnipotence, omniscience, and omnipresence


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God has infinite number of angels but his angels are not trained for combat, but they are trained to inspire humans or send messages to humans.

Satan is powerful but has limited number of demons that is fully trained to massacre any beings

lets assume satan's power can only allow him to create 300 demons.
Well God's endless horde of angels will eventually overpower the 300 demons.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by inimalist
that personal power being omnipotence, omniscience, and omnipresence


Yeah.

All that stuff.

The stuff that makes God impossible to beat.

I'd still side with Satan no expression


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by BIIIIIIIIIIIIID
God has infinite number of angels but his angels are not trained for combat, but they are trained to inspire humans or send messages to humans.


What bible did you read?

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Originally posted by BIIIIIIIIIIIIID
Satan is powerful but has limited number of demons that is fully trained to massacre any beings


I recall none of this outside Hollywood.

I do seem to remember God's kid owning dozens of demons with a few words though.

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lets assume satan's power can only allow him to create 300 demons.
Well God's endless horde of angels will eventually overpower the 300 demons.


Why would we assume that?


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Satan, because he has more influence while Yahweh is a douche that kills his followers


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Burning thought
Demons>Angels

the Devil would have all the monstrous killers and murderers of humanity on his side, wheras none of his saintly folk "could" fight lest they get corrupted through acts of wickedness, because even if your doing it for rightiousness your still stabbing someone/something

plus Devil has Demons ,far more terrible than Gods legions even if they can dodge the corruption, they still face some beastly beings, only diffrence is that while Angels are used to sitting around blissfully in heaven, the weather/hell beaten demons of the dark would be more than ready for any battle and more than prepared to go into the fray

then it comes down to God and Satan themselves, Satan has shown many times his power, wheras God only speaks of it, there are many accounts of Satan corrupting, Satan has done this, Satan has done that, Satan has messed up all Gods plans because he started the original sin, not to menstion God is pictured as either a bright light in the sky or in a humioid form, an elderly white haired man, or usually an elderly man in white robes wheras Satan is a monstrous, often tall musculer entity with horns and sometimes an attitude, either viscious or showing intellect and arrogence, regardless, old man<tall musculer horned entity

plus God cannot win, not without losing everything, simply because there is evil inside everyone, there are many types of wickedness even if it is by accident or you do not realise it, you could simply cause hate within others because of what your doing, even if what your doing is supposed to be for good, its still wickedness, so he would have to wipe out the human race as well if he would get rid of evil


So why do good people still exist?

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Re: God vs Satan II

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Originally posted by Marxman
Due to the immaturity in the last thread it was moved to the OTF. So hopefully after I make this new one we can have a real discussion on this.

ASSUME God and Satan are real. There is this unseen dimension parallel with our own. God's angels and Satan's demons are constantly "recruiting" for their army in a final battle. The only difference is that God has a better publicist. He's promised us all paradise at world's end after he has won this war. He's also said that Satan would bring nothing but destruction. He's also said that this thing is pretty much a wrap. He's got it in the bag. You just need to choose the right side.

But what if he doesn't? What if its actually still a toss up and in actuality the winning side is the one that will achieve paradise and the other is the one sent to eternal damnation?

Discuss (maturely if you don't mind).




This is SO Spawn roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Yeh I know


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God created everything including Satan (odd that he went pear shaped) and would appear to have more insight into how things might unravel.

Satan wanted to be worshiped as god even though he isnīt, this in itself is a negative.

I know who my moneys on.

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