Kyp Durron (one of Luke's Apprentice) vs Darth Vader
Kyp was a apprentice of Luke SkyWalker in the jedi academy and he was the finest he ever taught. But he had evil living in side of him that controlled him. He had to sides, he was very strong on the dark side. But soon he was turned back to light and bacame one of the new jedi council
Darth Vader beleived to be the most powerful sith ever in the force. He could choke people far far away and powerful at lightsaber skills. But he chose the light side as soon he saw Luke about to die, his son by sidious. But died trying to save him cause of lighting.
(REVAN IS NOT STRONGER THAN VADER)
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Registered: May 2005
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I'm not sure...
Vader had SO MUCH raw power. He could sit there, in my opinion, defenseless, without his suit (no limbs) and levitate his lightsaber and make it fight an opponent as fast as Mace and WIN without even moving. Why do you need speed when you can control your blade with the Force? Or he could levitate multiple lightsabers and have them all fight one opponent, I believe, and he would never have to break a sweat. Honestly, I have never seen a way around this technique. Revan would simply be bombarded with power. HOWEVER, Revan is also one of the most powerful Sith ever. He also has Force-moves that cannot really be defended. So, I don't think one is better than the other by that much, even though some people would definitely disagree. This is just my opinion. For the people who thinks Vader is lame, remember, for example, his face is never shown. He could be feeling anger, hatred, or he could even be getting off on killing every time he chokes a guy. This makes him so much more insane. Under that mask, he could be more intimidating than Darth Maul. Also, in fights, Vader does not use his Force power nearly as much as he should, in my belief. He, in my opinion, is above the need for speed and agility because he can use the Force to do the fighting for him (this is what I believe, but with his midichlorians, I think he can let them do the work for him). Vader KICKS ASS, OLDSCHOOL STYLE, in my opinion.
So, to close, I think that Kyp, if he's fighting ROTS Vader, will get pwned. If he is facing ROTJ Vader, he still might not pull it off if Vader can levitate his lightsaber (why shouldn't he? I know it's a good trick supposedly only for powerful Jedi Masters, but what's the difference? What's going to stop him? He just has so much raw power).
If people completely disagree with me, because I know this might sound inflammatory to some, please, I don't mean to offend anyone or to sound ignorant. These are just what I think are logic-based opinions.
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Last edited by Darth L. Dipsit on Jun 4th, 2005 at 03:49 PM
Actually there is a possibility. Vader is VERY in tuned with the force and as Dipsit said in one thread he could just use the force for all his battles and sit down on a chair enjoying it. He doesent even have to hold the saber. After all, Vader's father is the force.
Registered: Feb 2005
Location: The Dark Side of the Force
Vader is the chosen one......so what? Is he granted immortality? NO.
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I never said that. I mean that Vader is very in tuned with the force and could beat Revan if he put his mind to it. Geeze Kun-Ni I never said he was that powerful so don't depate me on things I never said.
Registered: Feb 2005
Location: The Dark Side of the Force
I'm just saying using "he's the chosen one" as a reason for Vader winning isn't that good of a reason. He was significantly weaker than he used to be and basically the suit put a limit on his powers. Vader has lost the power of becoming an extremely powerful Jedi or sith.
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Registered: Feb 2005
Location: The Dark Side of the Force
I thought you did. If I misinterpreted your words, then I apologize.
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Lucas has said himself that Anakin/Vader has immense potential up until the point obi-wan cuts him in half then he loses much of his power and ability! Hes still strong with the force but not as strong as Sidious/Palpatine hence the reason he never tries to take the empire for himself.
That said kyp's toast! Revan however is a whole other beast who is at the height of his abilites and mastery of the force! Revan every time!
Registered: May 2005
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wow...i didn't know obi cuts him in half....i thought he did that to DARTH MAUL. Man, i was under the impression he just cuts vader's left hand and feet off.....hmm.....i guess i should rewatch the movies,.....
Jun 4th, 2005 02:20 PM
