Twice? One was in Light and Dark but I recently decided Vos wasn't really trying and just ran from the battle because he couldn't hurt Agen, since he wasn't really evil like Agen believed he was. But when did he beat Vos the second time? If Agen is really better than Vos that's sad because it makes Sora Bulq seem like nothing after seeing Sidious beat Agen Kolar so easily.
Well, it is either Djem So or Ataru, based on her extremely kinetic motions, and affinity for wide, crowd-sized blows.
And as for the Agen Kolar comment; wrong. As darthsith19 stated, Vos only once dueled Agen, and that was never concluded. Vos simply retreated the entire duel; he was a quadruple agent for the Republic. He never intended to hurt Kolar. Although, of course, the Jedi Master didn't know this.
On the topic, ROTS made utter fools out of three of the greatest Jedi swordsman of the time. Kit Fisto, up until half-way through the Clone Wars at the least, was Obi-Wan's superior in saber combat. Even as of ROTS, he'd give Kenobi a run for his money. To be taken out by a slash, no matter the 'omg six seconds of combat' he lasted, is a disgrace to the character.
Agen Kolar was supposed to be a legendary Djem So duelist, one of the finest in the Order. Saesee Tiin I'm not so sure about, but he should certainly have been a force to be reckoned with. He led a group of capital ships in a particular space battle. I believe it was the Battle of Coruscant, but I may be mistaken. After his base ship was damaged, he led the Clone troopers into space in just their support-suits and an anti-grav pack, himself having only a helm with a small oxygen pocket. They boarded and took over the entire ship, and proceeded to destroy others in surprise attacks.
ROTS screwed with these characters. They were potentially incredible characters, Kit Fisto even moreso. And they were wiped out in seven seconds of dueling. Pathetic. Damn Nick Gillard.
'Mace is a 9, Yoda is a 9, Obi-Wan's an 8 or so, and Sidious is a 9 (or 10). Anakin is a 9. He would have been better than Sidious if Obi-Wan hadn't messed everything up."
Recited from memory; it's in the back of the ROTS game strategy guide. I read it a few weeks ago out of curiosity. That guy is so full of himself it's ridiculous. He'd place Cin Drallig over Obi-Wan. . .
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Well overall, I would have prefered they use the duelling choreographer for the COunt of Monte Cristo. He was very good and the fights were inventive but realistic. A far cry from NG's spinning, twirling, and ridiculously overly showy moves of no tactical use at all.
i dont see why obi is so bad and how anakin is so good, in aotc he said his power rivalled yoda's, but we all no he was high on crack when he said that...so obiwan and anakin are in my opinion equal
NG's example of the Jedi did suck a lot. I started watching CW miniseries and I finally began to gain a respect for the PT Jedi. I mean, Shaak took on 12 Grievous bodyguards, lost her saber, and still fought them all off.
But it makes sense why 12 Jedi were able to survive against thousands of droids, while 188 others didn't. And it doesn't make NJO and pre-KotoR Jedi and Sith so unbelievable.
Shakk Ti + Agen Kolar vs Quinlan Vos
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