Lets see, great sword fighter and great force user. Against Unknown sword fighter and hella powerful force user.
And good lightsaber fighter and good force user, against somebody who by all logic should be more powerful.
Now really if anybody wants to argue Dooku can beat Revan then thats fine with me, but i'm not going too... Revan by all means and by using if the little we know about him should very well be able to defeat Dooku. In a lightsaber fight or a duel of the force.
Kreia and Yoda, well these two could last for ever. But in all honesty I think Revan could beat Yoda as well, but Revan and Kreia as master and apprentice are probably a good team as well. Better then Yoda and Dooku who broke up as a team when Dooku went dark. So I think Revan and Kreia will win. Evidence?
Not enough to convince anybody, there is never going to be enough. Unless Kotor III comes out...
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Revan is a big unknown. I'd like to think he could beat Dooku considering that he's top dog in his era, but I ain't gonna rely on anything other than my own gut feeling and perception.
That said, I think Kreia can overpower Yoda. She's demonstrated extensive knowledge of the Force and on both sides.
Hmm think of it like this. Better then Malak, controlled the Star Forge, defeated two legendarily fighters, one of which probably killed a lot of Jedi and another one that would sure as hell be able to beat a lot of Jedi. Was trained by one hell of a powerful woman. Was seen by the council as their greatest student and their greatest hope for a great future. Was loved by all the Jedi as a charismatic leader but probably also really powerful.
We know he was a legend during his live, we know that thousands went to follow him and many of them turned dark. By all logic we know that a PT Jedi stands no chance against an ancient Jedi because of the way they were trained and the lack of real wars. We know that Revan when he turned Dark lead thousands of Jedi now turned Sith.
We know that they would kill him if they had the chance, we know they didn't. We also know that Malak and Revan were the only once (with the possible exception of Kreia) that could control the Star Forge. Why? Well its a 99% chance that its because they were more powerful.
So we know that Revan was more powerful then even the third most powerful Dark Side force user in that era. We know he controlled thousand of Sith, none of which really stood a chance against him.
I know it doesn't proof anything, and thats why I'm not making this post a lot bigger (and trust me I could). But the things we have is more then enough for me. Applied with some basic logic you could say he would take out Dooku with a 99% chance, of course this can all be defeated by a simple, show more proof... Which you can't because i'll have to start using some strange logic to proof what should be common knowledge, which I really don't like to do.
Yoda and Kriea is going to be a long fight... Yoda may not be the superior with force powers, but he is good. And he sure is better with a lightsaber than kriea, so its a hard fight to determain. The only fight that could make a difference here is dooku vs revan. IMO, dooku is slightly the better swordmaster, but force power wise is not.
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I hate that remark, I absolutely hate it.. A better swordfighter then Revan? It doesn't make any sense, funny thing is I can't proof it wrong. I hate Revan in versus threads.
Was he really top dog of his era? The entire bit leaves a lot for interpretation. We know he was superior to Malak, we know that Kreia was biding her time. But then where does Nihilus and Sion come into play? And what's with all of the Sith Lords in a span of ten years or so?
I could just as easily argue that with all of his powers, Nihilus was top dog of the era, he just ran into a bad roadblock. We do know that Revan was very powerful, I would place him way up there, but his position is not as clear cut as someone like a Ragnos, Kun, or Yoda's was.
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Correction then: Revan's title was untouched in personal melee combat. Even the mighty Malak never apparently bested him in personal combat. This is either really friggin' convenient or a testament to his power.
Indeed, Revan was a tremendously powerful saber duelist, but I don't see him as being the unanimous top dog of the era. We'll have to wait for KotOR III to clear some of it up.
I think Yoda would beat Kreia. Kreia has better force powers, but we've seen how good better force powers worked against Mace when Sidious lost to him. I think Yoda would be able to hold off against her force powers for long enough to move in and defeat her in close combat.
Revan vs. Dooku though would go in Revan's favor, but I can't prove that. If you think about it though, it should be obvious Revan is better.
Revan would defeat Dooku and would less tired than Yoda because I see Yoda vs Kreia a much closer fight than Revan vs. Dooku. So, I'll give the victory to Revan and Kreia with Kreia as a casualty.
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Yeah that's what I'm saying. You can't actually prove that Revan is better in terms of power/skill on paper, but if you actually think about it you obviously know that he can beat Dooku.
Sep 27th, 2005 06:57 PM
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