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Yoda Vs Sidious Who Would Win?
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Yoda Vs Sidious Who Would Win?

ive never heard it clear who would win between the to

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Try watching ROTS, apparently Yoda lost.

Environment factor.


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Try watching ROTS, apparently Yoda lost.

Environment factor.


They stalemated.


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ya they stalemated


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Precisely


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it was a tie.


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How was it a tie?

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did you not see ROTS?


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In lightsaber combat, they'd be equal. In terms of the Force, they're pretty equal. Yoda only lost because he was knock offed the senate pod because the Sith Lightning was too powerful. Yoda only lost because his body was so small that it was flung to the ground. Sidious is big and the effects of the Sith Lightning hurled him back only a bit.


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Yoda lost the fight but in terms of who at the time was stronger, it was very close.

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Originally posted by DrDoom101
In lightsaber combat, they'd be equal. In terms of the Force, they're pretty equal. Yoda only lost because he was knock offed the senate pod because the Sith Lightning was too powerful. Yoda only lost because his body was so small that it was flung to the ground. Sidious is big and the effects of the Sith Lightning hurled him back only a bit.


Uh, no.

In lightsaber combat, Yoda won. Sidious was disarmed. In terms of the force they are NOT equal. Yoda pushed back from a position of disadvantage in the force battle. That's the equivalent of being in an arm wrestling match, being almost defeated, and then suddenly pushing it all the way back against the opponent. That's called "superior strength". There was no equality there.

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Considering that they stalemated when Sidious had the advanced position in the entire fight (middle of the Chancelor pod during the lightsaber action, higher ground later) I guess Yoda might defeat him in a match on "equal ground".

Especially because Mace defeated Sidious and Yoda is more powerful than Mace.


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Originally posted by Dark Aristokrat
Uh, no.

In lightsaber combat, Yoda won. Sidious was disarmed. In terms of the force they are NOT equal. Yoda pushed back from a position of disadvantage in the force battle. That's the equivalent of being in an arm wrestling match, being almost defeated, and then suddenly pushing it all the way back against the opponent. That's called "superior strength". There was no equality there.
Thanks.....but there once was a thread on where Palpatine's lightsaber went. Are you sure Yoda knock it out? Cuz some people say he put it away.


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It's in the official script. The idea that he just "put his lightsaber away" has no basis in evidence, and the script offers a solution from GL himself, so I'm going to go with that over someone's biased interpretation of "Oh, he just put it away". No sensible warrior puts his weapon away.

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laughing out loud ok got your point


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Yep. The idea that he just tucked his lightsaber away (With no evidence to support it) while the script at least tells us he was disarmed... that's enough for me.

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I think that yoda WOULD defeat palpy if they had been on equal ground level. But yoda said that he was forced into exile for not completeing his mission, so technically yoda did lose.

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Environment factor.


Exactly.

I still think yoda was more powerful.


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Boils down to Luck really. They are pretty well exactly equal. They both got their good shots in and it just so happened that Yoda got the short end of the stick in that particular fight. On equal ground it becomes who makes a mistake first.

Oh and this "Palpatine lost his saber" business? Does it say this in the ROTS novel? If it does not then "original" scrips that were not used are not canon. Not unless GL himself specifically tells us that Palps lost his saber. Which to my knowledge he has not said.


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dude except it he lost his saber as did yoda


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Boils down to Luck really. They are pretty well exactly equal. They both got their good shots in and it just so happened that Yoda got the short end of the stick in that particular fight. On equal ground it becomes who makes a mistake first.


If Yoda can stalemate Sidious why Sidious always has the position of advantage the only logical guess would be that - given equal ground - Yoda would defeat Sidious. And if Mace can "overpower" Sidious on equal ground I don't see Yoda failing in the same situation.

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Oh and this "Palpatine lost his saber" business? Does it say this in the ROTS novel? If it does not then "original" scrips that were not used are not canon. Not unless GL himself specifically tells us that Palps lost his saber. Which to my knowledge he has not said.


First:
What appears to be more logical to you: That Sidious "puts away his saber in the middle of a confrontation with the 'humming blur' that is Yoda" or that Yoda simply disarms him like Mace - who's not Yoda's equal in terms of lightsaber fighting - did before ?

Second:
It doesn't matter if he lost the saber or decided to put it away since both situations would tell us that Yoda is the superior lightsaber duellists because either he disarmed Sidious or Sidious put the saber away because he saw that he can't take Yoda in a lightsaber duel and made the decission to try it with force powers.


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