Mave win all three. Mace's lightsaber skills are better than Vaders. I've never seen Vader use Force Lightning. Master Windu can certainly block it the same way he blocked Palpatines lightning. Overall Vader loses after a nice fight.
1. Mace - Vader's saber skills prolly aren't as good as in RotS, because of what Kenobi did to him, and Mace has Shatterpoint and Vapaad with him, which I think can give him the edge. Though, that doesn't mean Vader isn't good with a lightsaber, he's great.
2. Vader
3. I'd say Mace because of the edge he has in saber combat, unless Vader manages to move away from him quickly enough to be able to use the Force against him (which is doubtful), but it would be a great and long fight, because they are very close in every aspect.
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Vader has the skill, "massive foresight,"(RODV) and physical strength to handle Vaapad for a little while, long enough to realize that lightsaber combat won't bring him the victory.
1. Vader puts up a helluva fight, but Mace just has him beat between Vaapad and Shatterpoint. Mace stays focused, and won't lose his cool. Mace takes this after an intense fight.
2. Vader has beastly powers, and isn't afraid to use them, as does Mace. However, Vader has the better training and natural talent, and has Mace beat. (Along with being able to create pure white energy, if SOTME hasn't been changed).
3. Vader is a smart fighter, and can execute force attacks while in lightsaber combat very effectively. This is a tough one.
1. Mace - Vader isn't as good as he was and Mace has Vaapad and Shaterpoint and is just better, it wont be easy for him, but he will win this for sure.
2. Vader - mace is powerful, but Vader is even more with the Force and he has Dark Side powers and is a Sith Lord, buts its very close.
3. Probably Mace, opponents who are close in power, usually decide the match in lightsaber combat, where Mace is better, unless Vader does a LA Sidious, but he isn't as powerful as him nor smart and Jollyim and Manslayer, i am not saying he is weak and stupid, he is uber and very smart, just not as Sidious.
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I am with mace, really. His vaapad is too much for vader and about the force, i realy don't know who has the advantage, after all CW's Windu was a titan in this subject.
1.Mace, level 9 swordsman
2.Vader
3.Vader, by then Vader would have been strong enough w/ the darkside to take out Mace. He is really no question stronger in the force, thats why he wins.
Jollyjim, for clarification: RotS Anakin/Vader doesn't tire. Nothing was ever expressed to be the same for cyborg-Vader. Furthermore, Mace overcame a more powerful Sith Lord [Sidious] based on properties that apply to any dark sider, including Vader. Mace definately wins the saber fight and likely wins the all out fight as well.
Jun 7th, 2007 09:36 AM
