we know nothing about how powerful the apprentice can really be by the end of the game, so until then i say let this die, and we'll bring it back then
but just for the hell of it ill say bane wins
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he can bring a star destroyer to the ground, and hes physically strong enough to rip a cannon from an ATST with his bare hands and use it like a club...other than that, he has no real feats that make him exceptional
From what we know the apprentice is seems to be a powerful force user who knows force lightning and he seems to be a capable lightsaber duelist.
Here is my prediction now since the novel (ultimately the canon source for TFU) is not out yet so we really don't have much to go by.
Sabers= Bane.
Force only=apprentice though he may in fact lose,I'd give an ever so slight edge to him now only from what we have seen in the trailer and Bane's weakness to lightning.
All out=Bane with difficulty
I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that Nebaris will make his way to this thread, post something regarding Darth Bane's awesome ability to function as a conduit for planet-destroying energy and that the Apprentice's lightning is hardly sufficient to breach the orbalisk armor and would be subsequently owned in a matter of seconds.
That said, the Apprentice has supposedly been tortured and trained to use the Force on a "whole new level" and (according to Hayden Blackman) he is what Luke Skywalker might have became if Luke had accepted Vader's offer to become his apprentice. He has demonstrated the ability to pull an Imperial-class Star Destroyer out of the sky without any difficulty, and this is one of the very largest capital ships in history -- and then stopped it. He also has demonstrated sufficient telekinesis to crumple an AT-ST into a durasteel ball, as well as to create a vortex of psychokinesis that sucks in vast objects like a black hole, as well as create shockwaves of energy capable of destroying armored stormtroopers, walls, and containers.
And if what you said is true, then the Apprentice could have the potential to become one of the most powerful Sith all-time, maybe even the most powerful.
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Stopping the SD wouldn't take that much effort, considering the absolutely ridiculous amounts of friction that would come into play when something that large hits the ground at relatively low speeds. Keep in mind that the front half of the Invisible Hand was coming in at extremely high speeds, but slowed down rather quickly with Anakin's help and came to a stop within about fifteen seconds of hitting the ground.
we won't know until the book is released because that will cannonize just how powerful he is because honestly i'm assuming that gameplay is going to be as awesome as it is so people will buy the game and so lucasarts can make even more money
once again, we have no proof he actually pulls it down, and IF he does, it is just plain stupid, and throws the whole Star Wars universe out of whack ONCE again. Hopefully, he used mind control, or sabotaged the ship somehow, that's what i'm hoping for, because if he just rips a star destroyer out of orbit, we might as well all quit this forum now, because he becomes the automatic winner at everythign. (unless of course, he is faced by the intimidating Dorsk 81!!!! j/p (8
i would also like to point out, that he probably knows thousands of force moves NO ONE else knows, because whenever he chokes somebody in the force (if you watch the trailers on LucasArts.com) he creates cool little glowy neon lights that i've never seen any other force-choker create! same with force push! not only does he push everyone back, but he also uses the force in minute ways to subtly rearrange the molecular structure of the air around his targets in order to change the color of light those molecules absorb! thus the "clear" air, changes color to green, yellow, red, or even purple! no one has ever used that level of microscopic control with the force since perhaps Darth Plageious, (and we assume that midichlorians are at least larger than the molecular level, so with all probability, we see the force excersized with the greatest amount of precision and skill that we have ever seen in all of star wars, simply by his manipulation of the color of his force attacks! (i'm of course mocking the game play i've seen so far, and trying to instantly discredit anything so ridiculous a character accomplishes, but i hope you see my point.)
as a final argument as to the greatness of the apprentice, he can thrust his light saber into the chest of a stormtrooper, leave it there for a few seconds, while once again manipulating the molecules into changing color on the visible spectrum, and then pull it out, the stormtrooper drops dead, but there isn't a mark on him! amazingly, the secret apprentice has used the force to rebond, at the very least, his stormtrooper armor, and since there is no visible mark, once again, the armor has been manipulated at the molecular level in order to reform the bonds, even down to the white paint on the armor....
so in short, i'm incredibly disappointed with what i've seen from this game so far: when do we get a realistic combat game for star wars? the last was JA, and that was so long ago, and the graphics have moved so much furher, they could do so much better, and now they are making what seems like a kiddie game with all lightsaber control, and violence neatly removed.