In my last thread Malachor V was definitely a disadvantage for Mace something I felt he could not over come. However I do not feel the same with Luke. NJO Luke has much experienced with being tempted by the dark side and actually being a dark user for a time.
I could be wrong but I believe NJO Luke uses some dark techniques. So Malachor V may not be that much of a disadvantage for Luke.
I'm certain that I'm going to blow someone's world all to hell with this statement, but it's simple truth: Palpatine circa Dark Empire would be "a monumental challenge" for any incarnation of Luke Skywalker in any environment. Skywalker doesn't display combat prowess on par with the Emperor until The Unifying Force. In terms of destruction? He has never come close (though I will grant you that that is because Skywalker is bound by Jedi restraint).
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DE Sidious would be a monumental challenge for NJO/DN/LOTF Luke, since DE Sidious is the second most powerful Force user ever (Luke of course the first), but if the two squared off normally Luke would still take it.
But on Malachor...
(Note: I'm assuming we're doing Sabers - Force - All Out)
Sabers: Luke takes it, since he's a way better pure swordsman than Palpatine as of NJO.
Force: Sidious. His Force feats as of DE are crazy already, but add Malachor's huge amount of Dark Side power to his equally large amount of power, and he can eclipse even NJO Luke.
All-Out: After a really close fight, probably Sidious for the reasons in the Force section.
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I own the later-era NJO books, all of the Dark Nest trilogy, and all of the Legacy of the Force novels and, for the life of me, I can't recall exactly where Skywalker demonstrates utterly cosmic-class abilities with a lightsaber. Moreover, Vjun (another planet steeped in the dark side) imbued Count Dooku's swordsmanship to heightened levels during his attack on Yoda. What makes you think Malachor won't have the same affect on Sidious's swordplay? At best, Skywalker's abilities will remain the same in such an environment. Most likely? He'll become stagnant.
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I don't believe Malachor dampens LS abilities, it only enhances DS abilities. If you want a list of the best feats Luke has accomplished, here's one I posted in the Neo vs NJO Luke thread:
He was able to cloak an entire planet in the Force, move fast enough his lightsaber was like 20 sabers at once, then kill the Yuuzhan Vong Slayer warriors (all of which extremely powerful) after fighting through scores upon scores of normal Vong warriors (each of which with the strength of 2-3 average humans), then kill the very strongest Yuuzhan Vong of all after killing all these other Vong, without using all his effort.
The next trilogy, he could cloak ships and create illusions of other ships using the Force, kill hundreds of Killik insect warriors, kill a quite strong Dark Jedi (Welk), then a book later slaughter hundreds more Killiks, use the Force to guide his lightsaber strikes against an invisible opponent wielding two lightsabers at once, then the next book he was able to root himself in the Force so deeply that not even a black hole could move him. He was also able to manhandle two separate Jedi/Dark Jedi, each of which was able to draw upon the Force potential of the entire Killik species, and one of which had four lightsabers (Lomi Plo). Keep in mind that the one of these Jedi that did not have four lightsabers (Raynar Thul) had enough Force energy to be able to curve turbolaser blasts away from their target, something Luke himself wasn't able to do.
The next trilogy he was able to duel Lumiya (who uses a lightwhip) and Alema Rar simultaneously (twice, in fact), then duel and kill Lumiya later, then duel the newly empowered Sith Lord Darth Caedus and would have be able to kill him but didn't. He could also keep Caedus, a Dark Lord of the Sith, in a state of inability to move with extreme ease, and also was able to send Caedus flying across a room with minimal ease. He is also by now able to conjure illusionary fleets of ships using the Force, and further outwit Darth Caedus.
Finally, proof of Luke's incredible reflexes, when he battled Lomi Plo (who was using four lightsabers), Lomi Plo flew at him fast enough that even Luke was not able to sense she was about to do this. Yet, despite not sensing that, Luke was able to cut her into four pieces with a deft flick of his lightsaber.
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I mean... damn. I just listened to the guy for no reason. Advent used to scream violent commands when we made love and I responded to this guy even quicker. Does... that make me his *****, now?
Aug 10th, 2008 03:37 AM
.......seriously I feel your pain brother.
