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darth sidious RoTS vs gethzerion

note that palpatine was afraid of her

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note that palpatine was afraid of her


And Palpatine was afraid of Bail Organa, and once tried to kill him and Kenobi by leading trapping them on Zigoola. So obviously Bail > Sidious.

That aside however, I don't know who gethzerion is, so I shouldn't be commenting on this thread.


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Originally posted by Hewhoknowsjackshit
And Palpatine was afraid of Bail Organa,


No, no, and no.

Palpatine was not afraid of Bail Organa, he was cautious of Organa's influence on Padme Amidala and [incorrectly] assumed that Organa would compete with Anakin for Padme's affections, so he sought to kill him.

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and once tried to kill him and Kenobi by leading trapping them on Zigoola.


Kenobi was the stabilizing force for Anakin. Palpatine had been trying to kill him for years throughout the Clone Wars. The entire debacle on Utapau, the confrontation with General Grievous, was designed by Palpatine to merely get Kenobi off Coruscant so Anakin would be entirely without his mentor.

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So obviously Bail > Sidious.


Comparing Gethzerion to Bail Organa is ridiculous. Numerous sources have verified that Palpatine sensed Gethzerion's power through the Force and was rumored to visit Dathomir (sp?). After this, the planet was placed under interdict and Palpatine left the planetary garrison to die, having all shuttles destroyed from orbit.

Palpatine was paranoid and constantly on the lookout for threats. While this does not mean that Gethzerion could defeat him, the Dark Side Sourcebook says quite explicitly that he felt, under certain circumstances in the future, she could one day challenge him.

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Just out of curiosity, what is the exact passage?

She must have been pretty impressive for him to be concerned.

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Just out of curiosity, what is the exact passage?

She must have been pretty impressive for him to be concerned.


I don't have the Sourcebook on hand, but yes, he was very troubled. The gist was that he sensed her through the Force and felt her strength.

And then all of a sudden, Dathomir is suspiciously under interdict, all shuttles were surgically destroyed from orbit, and he left the planetary garrison to die.

That would suggest great concern. But, then again, that's likely Palpatine's response to just about everything.

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I wonder if he was more worried about her influence over the Nightsisters. They seemed to me to be a wicked bunch.

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Originally posted by Janus Marius
I wonder if he was more worried about her influence over the Nightsisters. They seemed to me to be a wicked bunch.


Well, like I said, the Sourcebook mentioned that she could "one day conceivably challenge even him" (exact wording IIRC). I don't think he was worried about her kicking his ass, though she was very powerful in the Courtship of Princess Leia (IIRC, she waved her hand and killed an entire division of stormtroopers and was precise enough to make Han's molar explode). But was more or less fearing a protracted campaign of Force use in a rather large galaxy.

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She made something explode!!!!? Has that ever been done before? Seems like shes pretty decently powerful, though SWwiki says she lost to Luke so she probably can't beat Palps.


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She might have lost to him in a bitching contest, who knows? Context is helpful.

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I still think she looks like a WoW character.


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She made something explode!!!!? Has that ever been done before? Seems like shes pretty decently powerful, though SWwiki says she lost to Luke so she probably can't beat Palps.


Gethzerion faced Luke directly once. In that encounter she telekinetically ripped open blood vessels in his skull ad then left him for dead. He only survived by directly drawing on the Force to heal himself.

She was killed when the ship she was on was shot down by a pair of Star Destroyers.

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Gethzerion faced Luke directly once. In that encounter she telekinetically ripped open blood vessels in his skull ad then left him for dead. He only survived by directly drawing on the Force to heal himself.


Then what about this- [wiki]Gethzerion finally met her match in Luke Skywalker and Teneniel Djo (a Dathomirian from Gethzerion's former clan and her neice)[/wiki]


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Then what about this- [wiki]Gethzerion finally met her match in Luke Skywalker and Teneniel Djo (a Dathomirian from Gethzerion's former clan and her neice)[/wiki]


Then what about these-

"Gethzerion fled in a space carrier but was killed when two of Zsinj's Star Destroyers opened fire under his orders. The Dathomirians were free of Gethzerion's tyranny."

"Luke decided to aid Teneniel Djo's clan of witches against the dark-side users on Dathomir, the Nightsisters. In this battle, he was nearly killed by their leader, Gethzerion, but healed himself in only a few hours using the Force."

"In the battle between the Singing Mountain Clan and the Nightsisters, Luke was almost fatally wounded by a Force attack by Gethzerion and a deep fall, but regenerated in the span of mere hours."

All from Wookieepedia.

Besides, I've actually read the book. Have you?

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Woah! I wasn't trying to be smart or anything, I was just curious as to why it would say that, thats all. Sorry if I seemed like a dick (in this thread).


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Woah! I wasn't trying to be smart or anything, I was just curious as to why it would say that, thats all. Sorry if I seemed like a dick (in this thread).


No problem, and I'm sorry for being so defensive. Misunderstandings happen.

As to why it said that; Luke and Teneniel did foil her plans, just not through direct confrontation.

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Woah! I wasn't trying to be smart or anything, I was just curious as to why it would say that, thats all. Sorry if I seemed like a dick (in this thread).
Stupid meanass dickhead.

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I checked out wookiepedia... and it didn't have much. this was what I got:

does anyone here have more links to more info on her? cuz wookiepedia basically said that she was an exile, created the nightsisters, and realized true power. which doesn't help much.

lol

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