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Nah, team 1
Personally, I know nothing of Kit and Agen, other than that they are some of the best swordsmen in the jedi order, but so is Saesee, and Ki I have no clue what he can do
But Saesee and Mace took out a B3 Ultra battle droid, which is something to be proud of, and Ki, Ki got shot.
I'd usually agree but I'm having trouble this time. Grievous really whooped Mundi (and Shaak Ti, and others, and clone troopers). If Fisto did the same to him, then a gap in saber skill is pretty obvious.
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The hell he didn't!!! He didn't kill him, but he clearly outclassed him, disarming one of his lightsabers (taking it for himself) and pushing him back the entire time until Grievous' cowardice came into to play once again. Grievous lost.
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He did epicwtfpwn Grevious in sabers and, frankly, totally.
But there wasalso the fact that A) it was a childs show so the jedi (the GOOD guy) couldnt lose to the Seppie(the BAD guy)
And Fisto also utilized the Force to quiet himself down, and got around using the mist around Grevious so he couldnt see him.
From that fight alone, we cant say Fisto would beat Grevious in a straight up duel to the death. Without that mist to hide him, Fisto may well have been killed that day.
Soresu anyone? That's the basis for Obi-Wan's dueling style; giving ground, waiting for an opening. That isn't the case for GG during his duel with Fisto.
Yet he didn't object. He's a coward.
And once again, WTF is wrong with the God of smiling? Peace mo-fo!!!
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The novel gives the advantage to Yoda, but from seeing the scene alone (as in the case of Grievous and Fisto) you can't say that Dooku was beaten. He could've just ran away because clones were getting close.
Still, getting pushed away doesn't mean you got beaten. Besides, after seeing the scene again, you can't really say Grievous got pushed back the entire time... Unless you mean that one Force Push.
Why would he object and why would he chance dying? What you call cowardice may also be called intelligence. Odds of survival are higher when he doesn't tell the magnaguards to go away. Fisto is the one who actually ran away.
Kids wouldn't like to see him get hurt. Lucas tries to appeal the main audience and those are mainly kids.
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Last edited by Slash_KMC on Sep 10th, 2010 at 12:57 PM
In the context of their duel, Yoda simply outclassed Dooku, plain and simple. There is no other way around it. Dooku was way out of his league, and it showed. In other words, Yoda beat him. The same scenerio was at play w/ GG and Kit Fisto, albeit to a lesser degree. GG was getting outclassed, then his MGs made their appearance. In the context of what happened, Fisto had the upper hand the entire time. He beat him.
Grievous was pushed back from :55 seconds of the video to 1:21 of the video. This accounts for their main series of exchanges. Take that for what you will.
First of all, Fisto retreated from a situation in which he was outnumbered 4-1. That's slightly different than what GG did. Remember, Grievous is the one who initiated the encounter, then let his MGs jump in to save his ass (which was taking a significant beatdown at the time). Grievous is a known coward, and has a history of running when things aren't going his way.
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Really, from this scene alone you decided that Yoda outclassed Dooku, plain and simple?
Where exactly did Yoda gain any kind of advantage? Please tell me.
Well, the way the camera moves, you can't say for sure that Grievous was being pushed back. So you can't be entirely objective about this fight. And subjective just doesn't cut it.
Yes, he let his MGs jump in, because why not? Had Fisto not been able to flee, he would've probably been killed. Had Grievous told his MGs to go away, his chances of survival would've decreased dramatically. Not every bad guy has to be overconfident.
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