In celebration of Revan's release today (yesterday for me), I'm making this thread, so that we might use the fact that Revan is no longer a guest in the hallowed halls of the Unknowns and has moved into the light of our Versus Forum.
He owns them all since at his peak he can redirect lightning storms and turn Sith Lords into ash. You have to be cosmic level to defeat him, and/or Nihilus/Sith Emperor.
Depends. Is this a Ragnos brick, which can tear rips in space-time, or is this a brick from the lowly Kressh, who has many Sith slaves in his bloodline?
It's still mightier than normal, since he wears Sith amulets which can be assumed to be Force-boosting since there's canon evidence of Sith artifacts from the same time and era doing the same thing (both from Korriban-found items in various media and from Naga Sadow's own similar pair).
If we assume Sadow and Kressh are near-equals in the Force (which is plausible, since they resorted to sword combat as opposed to lightning storms or pure-TK to duel one another), then it stands to reason either Kressh is unsupported and thus exponentially stronger than a standard Force user (unlikely) or the items he wears similarly boost his abilities like Sadow's amulets and thus he is one righteous badass.
That being said, the brick hits Revan with the force of 19.67 Death Star lasers and he dies, only to come back again as a Force Ghost and run rampant through the cosmos.
If you want to ride the slippery slope, Revan studied the Sith Emperor's mind for 300 hundreds years and thus knows more Sith lore than anyone else besides the former, and he can use it to defeat anyone or just Force-nom them a la Traya.
I remain sceptical the Emperor can use Traya and Nihilus' technique in combat. If he could he probably would have tried it on Revan when they fought (assuming he didn't....... ).
Just because Revan went to Malachor doesn't mean he studied that aspect of the Force. Besides, if Revan is to be believed he wasn't even a Sith then. Also, Kreia made it clear that you couldn't learn the technique through study.
Yet she and others learned it and perfected it through connection to Malachor V. KotOR II dialogue makes it clear that Revan was aware of the connection.
So does he make it past him? Remembering that this is a gauntlet.
I'm aware of how Superman gets his powers. That doesn't mean I could replicate them.
Kreia clearly states that the ability can only be instinctively learnt. And you are wrong. Their abilities deprive from the destruction of Malachor, but are not connected to it per say. Plus I doubt Revan woud have sent the Exile back if he knew what she was truly capable of. At least if we're talking about KotOR II Revan, and not Three Stooges Revan.
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Last edited by Nephthys on Nov 17th, 2011 at 12:02 AM
This is a ridiculous analogy, considering Superman's powers are inherited, not simply knowledge of a mystical power like Force knowledge happens to be.
Right, but Traya also teaches Nihilus how to perfect this ability which he appears to have a natural affinity for. She does this after studying the Sith hermetica left on Malachor V and experiencing the teachings of the true Sith for herself.
So clearly the ability can be honed and learned in some respect by knowledge of certain parts of the Force. Revan had access to such knowledge through his time on Malachor V and his mind contact with the Sith Emperor (Actually, that last one is totally difficult to support, but I'm arguing it just for the sake of arguing, see above where I asserted it blindly).
You fail.
Actually, only Nihilus is directly affected by this, becoming a wound because of the event at Malachor V. Traya is attracted to the place because of its "echoes", but ultimately it is the Sith teachings she finds there which cause her to fall, both to the Dark Side and into the practice of teaching this new power to the newer Sith order.
I don't quite follow you here. The Exile was not a wound until immediately after Malachor V, but Revan didn't send her anywhere at that point. She simply fled from war and left known space.
Nov 16th, 2011 02:11 AM
