I have to say, this battle could vary a lot depending on how Sidious reacted. If he blindly went into a saberfight like he did against Mace, he's gonna get stomped. If he keeps his distance, and plays it smart, he'll still lose, but he'll kill 1 or 2 of them.
Sidious stands back and plays each apprentice against the others. Likely he would have to favor Maul as his devotion was absolute, but I see that as his only hope of survival.
Unless this is a military or political contest, this sort of argument really has no place here.
It depends on which version of Maul this is. TPM!Maul was absolutely loyal; TCW!Maul? Not so much.
Feat-to-feat, the Emperor can win this. A holistic examination that incorporates but does not hinge on feat comparisons (Arhael and Zampano's arguments come to mind) would lean against that.
Dooku is stated to be virtually equal to Mace Windu in sabers. The same Mace that pressured Sidious in a raw contest of the sabers. I think Dooku alone would give Sidious a handful, throw in Vader who is 80% of Sidious and Maul and you have a stomp.
The team will win. Maul is a beast in lightsaber combat. He probably isn't too far off from Vader in that regard. Dooku is probably equal more or less to his former master in swordsmanship.
As long as they don't let Sidious get too much seperation to employ his reasonably superior Force powers then they should take it.
^ If that as aimed at me, I didn't say Count Dooku can take Sidious on his own.
But if we're to trust Count Dooku's own opinion (which you do when considering how a fight between him and Sidious would go) then Dooku even with the aid of TPM Maul's equivalent should be able to take Sidious. Let alone Dooku with the aid of Pre-Suit Vader and Maul.
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And even then, I still don't see them actually stomping Sidious. Sidious is far superior to Maul in every way, and considerably superior than Anakin and Dooku in terms of power and speed. So while they may likely win, I still think Sidious can at least put up a fight.
I disagree. Dooku has absolutely no feats to suggest that he is a match for Sidious. The quote in DR does not apply to Windu during his fight with Sidious, considering the quote was referring to Mace before that fight, and the fact that Windu only matched Sidious due to a unique state of the force, which was a result of Vaapad. We shouldn't assume that Dooku can replicate Windu's one-time feat against Sidious just because a quote calls them equals on neutral ground. Had Windu fought Dooku in a similar state and with a similar boost as he had when he fought Sidious, he would've handed Dooku his ass. Furthermore, Windu was on the verge of being overpowered by Sidious during the beginning of the duel despite being assisted by a trio of other swordmasters. It was only after Windu achieved his one-time unique state of the force, which required a little time, that he was able to match Sidious. So without his benefit from vaapad, he too is no match for Sidious.
^This is ignoring the possibility that Windu was drawing on Palpatine's own power to inhance himself. Either way one wants to interpret that fight, it's pretty clear that Windu has never fought at such a level before. So if someone wants to argue that it was a result of Windu's own unlocked potential, then that just means that Windu became that much better than Dooku right before he died. But there is absolutely nothing to suggest that Dooku can pull off such a feat. So, no, Dooku is no match for Sidious. He wasn't even a match for Yoda when having his powers greatly amped by the dark side nexus on Vjun.
__________________ "The power of the dark side is an illness no true Sith would wish to be cured of" -Darth Plagueis
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