Unless Bane is in Orbalisk Brothers should take it.
I think Current Maul even on his own can put up a decent fight against Bane.
He's quite powerful in the Force now able to Force choke the wind out of Kenobi (Sith Hunters) and toss a Jedi Craft pretty fast. And even though he's below Kenobi in Sabers, it's clearly not a huge gap when you look at their one on one's.
Then there's Opress who though untrained clearly knows how to wield a Lightsaber and has Monstrous strength and a mean Force Wave which has floored both Kenobi and Skywalker on more than 1 occasion.
Lastly even Sidious feels the need to use Jar Kai when fighting both brothers so unless Bane's Jar Kai skills are up to scratch and he has a spare Saber, he'll likely lose against both Brothers.
In orbs he takes them. Near invulnerability & stamina enhancement that allow him to focus entirely on offense leaves the brothers dead.
His speed by DoE is such that he is certainly capable of standing toe-to-toe with a pair of foes at once. That and his Force abilities should help him take the day, but it would honestly be a near thing. It's not like even Sidious stomped the pair and he knew Maul inside and out.
I implied that he clearly felt Jar Kai would be needed hence why he brought 2 Sabers to the fight.
Anyway if Sidious could beat them both with a single Saber then he should have done so to prove it.
But as far as the evidence goes, all we know is that he can beat them wielding dual swords. And as Obi-Wan's fight with the brothers proved, that second Saber clearly helps when dealing with both of them.
You think Bane is a match for Sidious?
Even if he is, is he as skilled in wielding Jar Kai? Because last I heard Kas'im was beating him in Sabers when he switched to Jar Kai.
Nah brothers should win this one except when Bane has Orbalisk.
Last edited by Darth Thor on Feb 2nd, 2013 at 12:17 PM
No, I don't think he is. I do however think that your implication that he needs it is quite ludicrous. Bane is fast and skilled enough to fight more than one opponent at once with a single lightsaber. And Jar'Kai is not a requirement of doing so in the first place.
What if Bane incinerates Savage at the start of the fight? Dude can't block Force Lightning for shit so he's out of the game in that case.
And yes, Bane is superior to Dooku. His Force Powers are more lethal (you'll never seen Dooku kill someone with a burst of lightning or a single Force Push like you will Bane) and Bane has greater speed feats than him, is stronger and arguably has a similar degree of lightsaber skill. Bane is just an all-around superior combatant.
However, you can't just base things off of ABC logic. Dooku clearly couldn't engage Savage whereas Bane can, being bigger and stronger. So Dooku's big thing, lightsaber combat, was stunted in its effectiveness. Bane also has more devestating Force powers.
Dooku's lightning is.... mediocre. He certainly has never turned a being to ash in the way Bane has. The fact that Savage doesn't seem to know how to block Force Lightning renders him utterly exposed to Bane's lightning. Why wouldn't it incinerate him? Savage has no innate Force-resistance, without the ability to block Bane with the Force, he will be incinerated. And then it's just Maul.
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Last edited by Nephthys on Feb 2nd, 2013 at 02:19 PM
Nah it was just difficult for him to deal with while fighting off a second opponent. Maul easily deflected Opress's blows with what seemed like some elegant Makashi. As Dooku did himself to Opress in their sparring session.
Because he's a physical beast with body armor and with clearly a lot of raw power in the Force on top.
Just in terms of his physical abilities he's taken blaster shots head on.
And then there's the fact that he's taken not just one shot of FL from Count Dooku. But several without even being KO'd.
Didn't seem to bother him. He was cool with simply dodging around Savage. It was only after he tried to actually block one of his blows that he got thrown across the room.
Because big and strong doesn't mean you can resist millions of volts of Force lightning.
Ok, then his armored body might be relatively intact. His head will still be dust on the wind though.
Yeah because Dooku's lightning is hella weak.
Zabraks aren't Force-resistant.
And unless theres some evidence that Opress is a special case or that he is, why should be believe he is without any evidence?
WTF? You seriously think Maul has enough Force prowess to choke Bane? What a joke. Bane can ragdoll both brothers when it comes to TK, lightning, and techniques they've never even seen.
The only reason they have a chance is that for a time it may be close saber combat only, and even then Bane wins the day, especially with Orbs.
I was just mocking at how Nephtys makes absolute statements despite the fact that these characters are from completely different era with completely different Force portrayal making it impossible to make even relative comparison.
Anyway, what a joke is your statement. I have a revelation for you. Having "enough Force prowess" has nothing to do with ability to Force handle others.
Ventress Force choked Kenobi and Anakin. Was she more powerful than both of them combined? Definately not.
Opress choked Dooku and Ventress. Was he more powerful than both of them combined? Definately not.
Ashoka Force pushed Ventress across entire room into a pipe. Was she at least remotely as powerful as Ventress? Definately not.
Finally, Luke tanked all Abeloth's Force attacks as well as outwrestled her. Had he more prowess than her? Definately not.
I hope you get the point. Skill has much more relevance than prowess.
Kenobi demonstrated that he can't simply be overpowered. When Dooku tried to electrocute him, he casually blocked it with lightsaber in one hand. When Opress gave his rage boosted wave that destroyed all the droids aroind, Kenobi tanked it. When Anakin tried to overpower him, Kenobi stalemated him. Maul's Force attacks were instant enough to leave Kenobi no chance to anticipate it and put up adequate Force defence.
Whatever power Bane possess, it will be of no use, if he fails to anticipate opponent's Force attack.
This claim is especially funny considering that even Sidious did not ragdoll them.
This. Sids kicked their asses with casual ease. Bane would too.
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