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Nephthys
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Barsen'thor vs Count Dooku

Force Contest only.

They fight in the Jedi Temple on Coruscant.


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I'll just start us off. Apparently the Barsen'thor is powerful enough to rip through a blast door the size of a two-story building. I hope someone who's played the Consular story can point us in the right direction or post a video for confirmation of this because we need some good feats for TOR characters. However, that does seem a bit more powerful than anything Dooku has done, so really he'll have to rely on his Force Mastery and and intelligent use of the Force to win, if he can.


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Does Barsen'thor know tutaminis? Considering it's a force fight only, Dooku's potentially higher speed and lightning could help him.


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Does Barsen'thor know tutaminis? Considering it's a force fight only, Dooku's potentially higher speed and lightning could help him.


The only time I remember the Barsen'thor deflecting lightning it was against Darth Lachriss, and it was with his saber. Other than that several of the Emperor's children blast him with lighting. He gets up shortly after, but he is not immune to it.


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Barsen'thor is a prodigy:-

The determined Consular launches a last-ditch assault against the First Son's hiding place. In a climatic final battle with the galaxy at stake, these two masters of the Force cross sabers. The Consular ultimately defeats the First Son and emerges victorious. Without the First Son's protection, the Children of the Emperor are revealed to the Jedi, allowing the Republic to steel itself against the Empire. Meanwhile the Consular is saluted as a hero of the order, ready for whatever challenges lie ahead. (SWTORE, Page 99)

So it is perhaps this battle which tilted the war in the favor of the Republic and the Jedi Order...

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Barsen'thor is a prodigy:-

The determined Consular launches a last-ditch assault against the First Son's hiding place. In a climatic final battle with the galaxy at stake, these two masters of the Force cross sabers. The Consular ultimately defeats the First Son and emerges victorious. Without the First Son's protection, the Children of the Emperor are revealed to the Jedi, allowing the Republic to steel itself against the Empire. Meanwhile the Consular is saluted as a hero of the order, ready for whatever challenges lie ahead. (SWTORE, Page 99)

So it is perhaps this battle which tilted the war in the favor of the Republic and the Jedi Order...


Uhh yes. The Children of the Emperor were perhaps the Empire's greatest tactical strength, the First son especially provided top level clearance for the Empire in terms of Republic strategy. To have a traitorous member of the Jedi Council was enough not to mention all the other spies.


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Its worth mentioning that the Barsen'thor is another 'minor prodigy' who shows up their master days into being a padawan. Their fighting prowess is so good that they impress Qyzen Fess enough that he thinks you're an embodiment of his deity, something you master didn't do despite knowing his for years. Your master also admits that you were stronger with the Force at age 4 than she was at 15.


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Haha, then literally 20 minutes after I wrote that I had to kick her ass.


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Finally found this feat:

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Very impressive, and looks like it didn't take much effort. I mean christ, look how thick that door is.


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Very impressive; she will whoop Dooku's @ss.

The title of Barsen'thor is rarely earned within the Jedi Order.

Some real bad@sses came during the Old Republic era. I guess that when the agents of dark become too powerful and disturb the balance, the Force retaliates with creating incredibly powerful agents of light to restore the balance and terminate the agents of dark.

What still confuses me is that if the agents of dark are supposed to be eliminated, how come this results in balance?

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Another cool feat. This is now my Barsen'thor feat thread:



6.35 A pretty decently huge chunk of metal, tossed like a stick. Still relatively early in the Barsen'thors career. Although it should also be mentioned that it seems that the Consular isn't especially skilled yet, as you then have the choice between saving some holocrons and a woman, indicating that they lacked the skill to lift both simultaneously.


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Another cool feat. This is now my Barsen'thor feat thread:



6.35 A pretty decently huge chunk of metal, tossed like a stick. Still relatively early in the Barsen'thors career. Although it should also be mentioned that it seems that the Consular isn't especially skilled yet, as you then have the choice between saving some holocrons and a woman, indicating that they lacked the skill to lift both simultaneously.


The Barsen'thor is easily the greatest Jedi force user in the galaxy by the end of the arc.


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It shows, the Hero of Tython never gets to do crazy stuff with the Force. Though they would still win in a fight between the two.


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It shows, the Hero of Tython never gets to do crazy stuff with the Force. Though they would still win in a fight between the two.


If the Barsen'thor had some lightsaber chops I think he/she could take the HoT.


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Even if they did the HoT has defeated opponents more powerful than the Barsen'thor. Vitiates Force Powers eclipse those of the Barsen'thors and yet the HoT was able to defend against him and kill him. Although they don't do anything particularly impressive with the Force, the HoT clearly has amazing defensive capabilities. I doubt the Barsen'thor could overwhelm them while the HoT can almost certainly beat them in a lightsaber fight.


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Even if they did the HoT has defeated opponents more powerful than the Barsen'thor. Vitiates Force Powers eclipse those of the Barsen'thors and yet the HoT was able to defend against him and kill him. Although they don't do anything particularly impressive with the Force, the HoT clearly has amazing defensive capabilities. I doubt the Barsen'thor could overwhelm them while the HoT can almost certainly beat them in a lightsaber fight.


A severely weakened Vitiate who was also losing significant chunks of his power with the First Son and the Children.

Also I wouldn't be surprised if the First Son was the second most powerful Sith at the time sans Vitiates.


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Say what?

I realize that Vitiate was drawing power from his myriad of human batteries, but I assumed it was for his galaxy-buffet ritual.

Don't tell me that the guy relies on them for a fight. Makes him look like a bigger puss if that's true.

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Say what?

I realize that Vitiate was drawing power from his myriad of human batteries, but I assumed it was for his galaxy-buffet ritual.

Don't tell me that the guy relies on them for a fight. Makes him look like a bigger puss if that's true.


It is stated each Child of the Emperor was imbued with a part of the Emperor's power. I'm not sure what that means for a fight.


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A severely weakened Vitiate who was also losing significant chunks of his power with the First Son and the Children.

Also I wouldn't be surprised if the First Son was the second most powerful Sith at the time sans Vitiates.


Is it specifically said that they grant him power? If anything he should be stronger without having to imbue them with a portion of his strength. And even then, only if the Jedi Knight storyline occurs after the Consular one. Given that the Jedi Knight is the only one without seeing Surresh as Supreme Chancellor, theres no way to really tell. Either way, Vitiate recovers his strength if you go to rescue your love interest, he was on a phenomenally powerful darkside nexus and the HoT had to fight through Kaas City and the Imperial Guard to get to him.

Neither would I. Except that he lacks the feats necessary to proclaim him as such. Maybe SWTORE says something about him?

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Say what?

I realize that Vitiate was drawing power from his myriad of human batteries, but I assumed it was for his galaxy-buffet ritual.

Don't tell me that the guy relies on them for a fight. Makes him look like a bigger puss if that's true.


Nah. If anything it would make him weaker since part of his power would be tied up in his Children. Not to mention the Imperial Guard as well.


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Is it specifically said that they grant him power? If anything he should be stronger without having to imbue them with a portion of his strength. And even then, only if the Jedi Knight storyline occurs after the Consular one. Given that the Jedi Knight is the only one without seeing Surresh as Supreme Chancellor, theres no way to really tell. Either way, Vitiate recovers his strength if you go to rescue your love interest, he was on a phenomenally powerful darkside nexus and the HoT had to fight through Kaas City and the Imperial Guard to get to him.

Neither would I. Except that he lacks the feats necessary to proclaim him as such. Maybe SWTORE says something about him?



Nah. If anything it would make him weaker since his part of his power would be tied up in his Children. Not to mention the Imperial Guard as well.


I always thought that the loss of the Children during the Battle of the Corellia created an additional opening for the JK to kill the Emperor. Surresh was likely busy welcoming Corellia back into the Republic.

Also the Emperor was likely still weakened, I doubt a few hours would help recovering from a galactic ritual.

Anyway, the Jedi Consular had to fight through several of the Emperor's Children and the Imperial Guard on Corellia before fighting him.


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