I can't read the OP, but Obi Wan ROFLAMO stomps his ass. It's a comparison between a highly revered soresu master, and an exceptionally talented but still insignificant in the grand scheme of things Scourge. This same Scourge was hesitant and self-doubting when tasked with facing a dark council member, just from the knowledge that his enemy was a member of the dark council; Obi Wan can tool most members of the RotS high council. Kenobi is a much, much bigger fish in the pond.
Pfft, yeah right. Unless by that you mean 'mastered all forms of lightsaber combat and actualized his prodigious potential.' In which case he definitely beats Kenobi.
nah, obi wan has far greater accolades than scourge imo, defeating 1100 people over 300 years isnt that impressive, especially if you factor in the idea that scourge probably had the element of surprise in most of these encounters, and that these were beings of questionable power, and that kenobi has stalemated TCW Maul, pwn grevious, arguably the greatest master of soresu, etc.
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Nah. I've made my arguments for Scourge exhaustively. He was already a skilled swordsman in Revan and has 300 years of training on top of that, plus one of the highest killcounts in the mythos. Revan and Nyriss note that Scourge has enormous potential, which again suggests to me that after 300 years he'd be an extremely powerful Sith, not even counting the fact that 'his battle prowess is enhanced by the Emperor.' Scourge is also above the Dark Council, therefore putting him above Kenobi in lieu of that in my esteem.
Also he almost certainly didn't surprise anyone given what we see of his methods in TOR as well as his description on the Swtor website that 'Scourge has struck down dozens of Jedi while climbing over the bodies of numerous Sith who dared to stand against him.' Furthermore, Scourge is a 'heavily-armored close combat' fighter, not stealth based.
if you REALLY wanna get in-depth, then scourge was probably gorging himself on the emotions of the sith he killed, enhancing his power, which he wouldn't be able to do on kenobi
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Plus they weren't random, they were powerful enough for Vitiate to deem threats. Thats a high accolade imo. I'm not saying they were above Kenobi (though I doubt anyone would describe him as 'too powerful' lmao), just pointing out that he's defeated powerful Jedi whose emotions he couldn't gorge on before.
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plus i still cant say they're> kenobi just because vitiate deems them threats, and im definitely sure kenobi would be strong enough in his ROTS incarnation to be a "threat."
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So this puts him above Kenobi, but not Dooku? Why? And why isn't Yoda above Sidious, then?
This is not nearly as important as your wiener would fantasize. I'd imagine that Maul has a higher kill count than Yoda.
I don't think including Vitiate's boost is fair here. He's not in this battle. And "enormous potential" and "extremely powerful" hardly put him on Obi Wan's level.
So what?
Obi Wan has better feats, and better accolades. There is no evidence in your favor, just vague speculation and baseless conjecture. Obi Wan > Scourge. With a blade, Obi Wan surpass all but maybe the HoT, the other Emperor's Wrath, and possibly Malgus. Everyone else dies. Deal with it.
...which nullifies the point that he could pick and choose his battles, and was amped by Vitiate, how exactly?
How do you arbitrarily conclude that Scourge + 300 years > Obi Wan, but < Dooku, and < Yoda? Are you computing some hidden mathematics you think is too complex for us to understand? Because I can assure that we have all mastered arithmetic, sweetie.
Tempest also called you a fatass. Are you really a fatass? Tell me, I really want to know.
XSUPREMEXSKILLZ said that Scourge likely had the element of surprise in most of his battles so I pointed out some facts contradicting that. It had nothing to do with those two points.
ROTS Obi Wan Kenobi Vs Lord Scourage
Sep 6th, 2013 04:26 AM
This is not nearly as important as your wiener would fantasize. I'd imagine that Maul has a higher kill count than Yoda.
