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I know all of this. I actually plan on making a Scourge Respect Thread.
I was in the belief they referred to rank, not power.
Ood Bnar was 5,000 years old.
Awesome.
See, this would be impressive, but the difference is, he did this over a span of countless years. It is not as if he took them all in a day, he rather fought them individually, had time to prepare, etc. And the bottom line is, no Jedi he fought was superior to Leviathan Revan, who Malak not only bested, but was able to stun and TK
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As I recall, Scourge also killed a dozen Sith with the Force when he freed the HoT's crew.
It's both. Scourges job is to police the Dark Council and keep them in line. A position Vitiate created in respomse to his purge in Revan. Scourge was effective in this job, as the Dark Council is known to have feared him.
Wasn't 3,000 of those years as a tree?
In any case, Scourge was a master of 3 lightsaber forms as of Revan. In an extra 300 years I'd argue he'd be a master of all of the lightsaber forms, and/or have refined his skills to near perfection.
Its a level of battle experience beyond anything Malak can dream of. Scourge's raw skills would be immense.
Lolwut? What has Leviathan Revan done that's impressive at all? Beat Juhani? Scourge was sent after Jedi Vitiate considered powerful enough to be a threat. Thats an elite list imo.
This is the third time I have to reply to this, so excuse me if it's not high quality. The first I exited out by accident, the second my computer crashed.
Cool. Malak and Revan's job were to literally wage war on the Republic.
In addition, wouldn't Scourge be amped by Vitiate like the Imperial Guard were, who were also said to have been feared by the DC.
Around 1,000>>300.
That's great. Don't see how it's helped Cin Drallig against Anakin, or how it will help Scourge against a stun+whirlwind combo.
Having a puny duel once every 3 months is not battle experience. Being on the forefront of nearly ever devastating Mandalorian battles *is* battle experience, and that's what Malak did.
Bandon would be the superior to any no-name "powerful" Jedi. Must I mention that despite him hunting down threats, he never killed any powerful Jedi from TOR.
Bandon is stated to be a badass master a Force Rage, while he is also said to be very skilled in saber combat and is excellent at Illusions.
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So what? Does that put them above the Dark Council? Hell no. A Dark Council member could have lead Revan's Empire, easily. Scourge's position puts him above them though.
Scourge's amp is not said to be only when he is near the Emperor, like the Imperial Guard's is.
Bnar was primarily a scholar, not a fighter. His immense age allowed him a vast amount of knowledge and likely a huge understanding of the Force.
Besides, not all beings learn at the same rate. As I said, Scourge was already a master swordsman with mastery of Juyo, Soresu and Ataru in Revan, when he was merely around 30. Given ten times as much, er, time to improve I believe he'll possess far greater lightsaber skill than he had when he met Revan.
Malak isn't overpowering Scourge with the Force. As I pointed out, Scourge Force pwned about a dozen Sith when he rescued the Hero's companions. Recall that Revan said that Scourge possessed tremendous untapped potential in Revan (and he wasn't shabby at the time), which I'm sure he actualized by TOR given the above. Combine that with Vitiates amp and the amp Scourge will get from feeding on Malak's hate and rage (which are potent) and if anything he'll be overpowering Malak.
Cin Drallig was overwhelmed by Anakin's raw power and speed, not his lightsaber skills. Malak will definitely not be doing the same to Scourge. Which suggests a pure lightsaber duel, in which Scourge has the obvious skill advantage. And he has biochemical enhancements enhanced in terms of strength, while already being a huge man on top of his Vitiate amp.
And he has a shield generator. And heavy armor.
Experience against Mandalorians, sure. I fail to see the relevance in that for a duel with a Sith Lord. Scourge has far greater experience fighting against an uppity Sith like Malak. He thrives on fighting Malak's ilk.
Perhaps because the Jedi in TOR weren't worthy of Scourge. We never saw him killing any Jedi in TOR, that doesn't mean he didn't kill any. We know he was active.
Revan didn't kill Bandon by himself, he had his party with him. Scourge works alone, as soon when he casually strolled up to a fortified Republic bunker to kill an ex-Dark Council member by himself.
Also Bandon is a joke.
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Last edited by Nephthys on May 17th, 2014 at 08:59 PM
Do not forget, Malak and Revan were crowned Darth's in seconds, no one else in that entire Empire ever was...not even Malgus or Nox.
The amp was not good enough to beat an Act 2 Tython.
That mastery really helped him a lot against Nyriss.
Once again, if it's not about Revan I don't care about your speculation.
Malak overpowered Revan with the Force, he can do the same with Scourge, who was in complete shock over seeing a greater Revan's Force power.
Malak pain resistance and physical feats can handle this.
You act as if he fought like Barsen'thors. He fought your average powerful Jedi. Not even the mighty ones...none of the notable ones in TOR were slain by Scourge.
No. Bandon is not a joke. He is honestly the second/third best Sith of the era. I guess I need to make a respect thread for him.
His TK was powerful enough to slam a Sith Trooper so hard against a computer the whole damn thing exploded which killed another two Sith Troopers.
He's stated to be very skilled with a blade and killed "a score" (20) of Jedi with it.
He's a master at Force Rage, which boosts his power in all aspects, as well as Sith Illusions, primarily Force Horror.
He is above any featless Jedi that Scourge killed.
Yes, but all accounts of Bandon's defeat say Revan was the primarily, if not only, one who slew Bandon.
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Oh my, you seem to have gotten positively catty. Touch a nerve, did I?
Calling Bandon the 3rd best Sith of the era is hilarious though. I guess you're not counting the Triumvirate or Vitiates Empire. Also I guess you're not aware that the reason he's a meme here is because of how hilariously crap he is for the "3rd best of the era", lmao.
They were made Darths because they were already fully trained and because they possessed a loyal army that they could command against the Republic. Malgus and Nox weren't made Darths in seconds because they actually had to go through Sith training and prove themselves.
Yeah, and Tython sucks, huh?
Losing to the gal who would go on to defeat Vitiate is hardly a mark against him.
You're not even trying Ant. Its the same deal as with Drallig, Nyriss was too powerful, fast and skilled for Scourge to keep up. 300 years later, thats not a problem. Just admit that Scourge is obviously more skilled than Malak.
Its called common sense, nimrod. Scourge was preparing to help fight Vitiate and his forces and fought a hell of a lot during his time as the Emperor's Wrath. Theres no reason for him not to train in lightsaber combat and every reason for him to do so. And since he became a master of 3 lightsaber forms in a mere 30 years, its obvious as **** that he could easily become a master of them all and highly refined in them in 300.
Malak overpowered an amnesiac, barely trained Revan half-way through Kotor. We know how much Revan would improve after that fight to where he met Scourge. At the time Malak beat Revan, Revan had accomplished absolutely nothing of note in terms of combat. Its proves all of **** and all in regards to Malak vs Scourge in the Force. Scourge improved drastically after meeting Revan also.
Pain resistance is only useful if he gets hit. And if he does, I doubt he'll last long afterwards.
Also I fail to see how thats relevant at all to a shield generator and heavy armor.
Scourge was specifically sent after Jedi who "became too powerful". For Vitiate to consider them too powerful is high praise. They were obviously above average powerful Jedi.
We joke about him all the time, actually. He's one of our longest running running jokes.
Watch out, we got a badass here.
Oooh, a whole twenty. Nice.
oh no
Just because Revan killed him doesn't mean that his allies didn't help considerably. Its a non-feat of killing a worthless Sith.
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Last edited by Nephthys on May 18th, 2014 at 03:35 AM
Malgus and Nox's power were questionable at a time.
Revan and Malak's never were.
Tython is a male.
I did the first time I typed my last response.
Then I accidentally exited out.
I did half effort the second time.
My computer crashed.
The third time I didn't gaf.
My argument looks awful looking back at it, so I'm going to start again. For the sake of time, I'll automatically concede to everything below without even reading it. Go you.
Give me some time to make a new argument though.
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May 17th, 2014 06:59 PM
Watch out, we got a badass here.
