I see no reason the HoT couldn't out spar an aging Yoda in a none serious fight. Yoda would most definitely outduel them, but this isn't a duel. Sparing matches aren't really the best judge either way, but it does show how strong the HoU is.
Nah. Even if they were sparing matches, I doubt he could overcome Yoda.
In the Fisto vs AotC Kenobi sparring match, Fisto still utterly outclassed Kenobi.
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Let's not write the Hero of Umbara off either, though. He was the reigning Jedi Weapons Master of the Clone Wars. (Raskta Lsu's position)
He was a master in Ataru, and his ability with it was such that he was able to emerge victorious against Yoda in a sparring match. The fact that he was able to compete with Yoda as a peer in sparring means he's on Mace's or Dooku's level as a swordsman.
This is not all he's accomplished, though. He's also pushed back Count Dooku in their battle, which speaks for his Force competence, and he's also single handedly fought through the Ancient Sith Academy on Umbara and forced the Maul Brothers to retreat in their duel.
He's also the Order's greatest master of lightsaber throw.
No I don't. The fact is, a sparing match is not the same thing as a life or death fight, and even if it were, nothing but your opinion backs up that the HoT isn't fully capable of sparing and winning said spar against Yoda, especially when neither would be fighting to their fullest. Using sparing as a basis of power is shaky at best.
Just realized that the HoU defeated the Maul brothers while on a Dark Side Nexus. It's entirely conceivable that he's on par with Yoda as a swordsman, considering that.
Just as nothing but your opinion backs up that Yoda isn't capable of beating HoT in a duel, because he has superior dueling feats and is overall more powerful. To say otherwise contradicts Yoda's placement as more powerful then any Jedi before him.
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Also Sasukedc, glad to see someone taking Umbara seriously.
To be honest, I agree he is around Tython level, most likely superior though.
His Force abilities, where are not fully establish, must be very impressive to defeat the opponents he has.
His saber skills are seemingly unparalleled, having an insane win-to-loss ratio against nearly all the Clone Wars characters.
However, does anyone have any TK feats for him?
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I get the reference, but I've never said HoT would ever beat Yoda in a duel. Ever. I think they are comparable swordsmen, Yoda probably more so, nothing more.
I just don't see anything that shows the HoT couldn't repeat it.
Just to be clear, I don't think the HoU could beat Yoda either. That's why I don't really want to take it as proof that they are superior to the Hero of Tython.
Jul 2nd, 2014 05:59 PM
