Should be close in dueling skill, though Savage beating Gallia and fighting evenly with Ventress are better feats than Bane never beating a high tier duelist/never beating anyone other than Sirak. Bane is an inferior duelist, but has an edge in lightning. Bane's TK feats are inferior and won't budge or harm Savage in any way, but his lightning might do something.
Savage beats Bane in a duel, but Bane's lightning might give him some rounds. Savage on the other hand can likely send him flying via TK though, I'm leaning Savage 6-7/10 with a few rounds to Bane due to lightning
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Last edited by carthage on Oct 29th, 2014 at 10:07 PM
Yeah, I think Savage’s vulnerability to FL will cost him a few rounds.
In the force it’s close, but I admit this is an arbitrary assessment. So far no-one has presented any good force feats for this incarnation of Bane. Conversely, Savage has some good TK feats to his name.
In dueling Bane might be a tad faster perhaps, but again, this is speculation given that his best speed-feat in DoE, deflecting rain-drops, has been rightly criticized as not as impressive as it seems at a first glance. Namely that rain travels slower than blaster bolts. On the other hand, Savage has matched or beat a more impressive lineup of duelists like Kenobi, Anakin, Ventress, Galia or Koon.
All in all, I’m inclined to give an edge to Savage.
Last edited by Stigma on Oct 29th, 2014 at 10:10 PM
I don't see any reason why Bane is faster, they're on the same speed tier with Bane's only non nexus speed feat being moving his shield fast enough to form a shield. Bane couldn't even deflect rain drops by doing that, and had to use evasive maneuvers . Savage has redirected blaster fire from scores of droids, which is an equivalent feat to Bane's massively overrated rain feat/superior somewhat. There is no speed difference between the two, Savage is just more skilled, somewhat more powerful, and has far better dueling feats than Bane.
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You must keep in mind, however, that Bane deflected rain for a full 10 minutes, and while droplets of rain might be slower than blaster bolts, obviously many more of them would fall from the sky.
That's a feat of endurance not a feat of speed. Bane not being able to deflect slow moving water droplets is embarrassing on his part. Also as anyone should expect there are no coherent arguments from the Bane crowd.
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Savage deflecting omnidirectional blaster fire from dozens of shooters, however brief, is better in terms of raw speed than deflecting.. rain. There shouldn't really be a speed disparity anyway.
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He only did so while amped by Orbalisks, he never replicated creating 12 afterimages at all. There is no speed disparity
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Even non bloodlusted Savage has moved a decent sized ship off a cliff, blown up that prison Cell made of Mandalorian iron, and choked out Ventress/Dooku. Bane has only telekinetically disrupted the insides of guards, hurled guards against a wall, broken a table, broken boxes and tents, and thrown back Zannah with a force scream (unamped and off nexus). His TK feats are plainly inferior, and he is also outskilled as a duelist.
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