Who can defeat General Grievous in Hand-to-hand combat?
What it says in the title. Who can defeat Grievous using nothing but their body as a weapon? This can be pretty much any sentient or nigh-sentient humanoid being, Force sensitive or non-Force sensitive. Please don't look for loopholes like a spirit or something.
I'll be using pre-TCW Grievous for this thread.
In the case of characters who pretty vastly outstrip Grievous in speed, i.e Sidious, Yoda, GM Luke, you can equalise their speed to make it fair.
I personally don't see any of the people you mentioned beating Grievous H2H.
Of course it's making it fair. Characters like Sidious and Yoda are skilled unarmed combatants with good physical feats to compare to Grievous. Letting them wreck him with speed alone doesn't generate good discussion.
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Because Grievous is faster, stronger, more durable, and potentially more skilled than just about everyone you listed.
I didn't flat out "gimp" them. I said you "can" equalise speed if you want to make the fight fair. If you want the go ahead to say "Sidious speedblitzes" then congratulations, you have it. Whoa, look at all of that discussion value.
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I remember reading a LONG time ago that Grievous punched a hole through an alloy that withstood Aldeeran's destruction, Phrikk I think it was.
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No he really isn't. All also have forced enhanced strength which will always come into play. They tron through the things Grievous is made up of. He isn't some super being just because he's skilled with a lightsaber and overcome Obi-Wan with his feet a few times.
Then say don't name those people. Speed is just as important as strength in a hand to hand fight.
Force enhanced strength which isn't enough to surpass Grievous' augmented strength. His feats include denting a Starfighter with a strike, literally crushing Jedi into a pulp under his feet, creating craters and shockwaves from his landings, throwing Durge like a missile across a gallery, shattering clone helmets, cleaving through Mandalorian durasteel/plast armor, walked through a massive gust of wind that sent dozens of droids flying away ect.
As for durability he's above all of them. He's made from the same material that is used to armor Starfighters and in prison cells, can survive volleys from Starfighter laser cannons, can nonchalantly tank blaster bolts, can tank being punched across a room, through a bust and into a stone statue by Durge, can tank a propane tank/rocket launcher being blown up on him point blank, ect.
And as for speed, demonstrating the ability to combat and get the edge over five Jedi simultaneously, throw 20 strikes per second and overwhelm Kenobi's defences, ect, should make him marginally faster than those you listed.
I wasn't questioning it's importance - but what's the use in discussing a character speedblitzing another when you can have a legitimate debate over things like strength, durability, skill ect? Get over it.
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Nov 9th, 2014 12:37 AM
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