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Nihilus vs Vitiate

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I'm siding with Vitiate.


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Nihilus


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Nihilus

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Nihilus goes to town.


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Nephthys
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Do people put so little stock in Vitiate's statements of being more powerful than Nihilus?


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MOST POWERFUL DOESNT ALWAYS MEAN WINNER BRO

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Nephthys
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I wasn't aware that line of reasoning was widely accepted. I'd be surprised if it was.


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Selenial
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It is.

Why does power matter in a 1v1 when Nihilus can devour you?
Like, perhaps he can't sever vitiate from the force in his usual drain manner due to the power, but he can TK him like a ***** and then do it.

Vitiate just doesn't have many 1v1 showings and relies a lot on rituals. Not a bad thing, just the reason he'd lose against Sidious and Nihilus even if he was more powerful.

Not Vitiate bashing, his style is great for galaxy wide shit, just not duels.


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Nephthys
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Why does the drain matter when Vitiate can dominate his mind?

I would be hesitant to say that Nihilus could devour Vitiate. Vitiate's power and the nature of his spirit and self is a very strange and unique case, though also very similar to Nihilus' own state. Personally I feel that coming down on either side of the question would be highly speculative. Also if Nihilus can TK Vitiate like a B*tch (which I doubt), Vitiate can zap him right back like a b*tch.

Also Vitiate doesn't reply alot on rituals. That is just the fanon interpretation of him. An over-reliance on rituals is never stated to be a weakness of his.


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Vitiate can block the drain, so he wins.

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Nihilus doesn't do drain, I have explained this multiple times on this forum with in game quotes. He directly and instantly devours an entities connection with the force, and life itself. He doesn't consumer your energy, your life force, or your force reserves, rather he devours your connections that connect you with life and the force.

There is no counter for this, absolutely nothing in the mythos stops this nor can it be learned or taught. No one but Nihilus has this ability, all according to in game quotes word for word.


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There is no counter for this, absolutely nothing in the mythos stops this nor can it be learned or taught. No one but Nihilus has this ability, all according to in game quotes word for word.


Actually Traya, the Exile and the Sith Assassin's all utilise the same technique in some manner.

"The sect of assassins that chase you feed on the Force... what he does is simply the pinnacle of what they could achieve, in time."


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Actually Traya, the Exile and the Sith Assassin's all utilise the same technique in some manner.

"The sect of assassins that chase you feed on the Force... what he does is simply the pinnacle of what they could achieve, in time."


If you would quote my entire post, and not just one sentence you would see that closely after that follows something close to "His power can't be taught, it can't be learned" and that he devours an entities connection not just their force energy.


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If you would quote my entire post, and not just one sentence you would see that closely after that follows something close to "His power can't be taught, it can't be learned" and that he devours an entities connection not just their force energy.


I didn't quote the rest of your post because I agreed with it or didn't see anything objectionable. And Traya, the Exile and the Sith Assassin's weren't taught the technique. They learned it through instinct, through experiencing it's effects first hand.

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“It is the teaching of these new Sith, to feed on others, on other Force Sensitives. They are symptomatic of the wound in the Force. You are a breach that must be closed. You transmit your pain, your suffering through the Force.”

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“What if other Jedi went to war as you did, suffered the same events, and emerged as you did. What if there was a crucible that trained such Jedi to consume and kill?”

“For you, Malachor was that crucible.”

“What's worse, is these Sith that we face... I fear that they have learned the lesson of Malachor all too well. It is what allows them to prey on Force users, to become stronger when Force Sensitives are near.”

“Somehow, they have learned their hunger from you. And so you have brought about the end of the Jedi, and perhaps all the knowledge of the Force.”

Revan and the Triumvirate used Malachor as a crucible to enable others to learn the technique. They didn't need to teach anything, just let instinct and experience do the work.

(btw the Jedi Masters are ****ing retards for not putting two and two together and thinking "Hmmm, maybe the Sith are on Malachor!")


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Do people put so little stock in Vitiate's statements of being more powerful than Nihilus?


Yes, and he wins.

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Nihilus is the shadow in which all life dies. Vitiate, being alive, dies.

Provided Vitiate is worthy of Nihilus' attention. stick out tongue

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Vitiate.


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