They get full power and health restored after each abttle.
Setting: Alderaan mountains
No amp/prep time.
Warm-up: Zannah and Kas'im
1. TPM Maul, Satele and Ventress
2. SoD Maul, Koon and Zallow
3. Jaina, Leneer and DD Vos
4. FE Malgus, HoT and Barsen'thor
5. Exar Kun* and Plagueis
6. DE Sidious**
* Kun gets his amulets
** Sidious gets two sabers
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Probably fall at five.
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Kun as the better Niman master takes Revan in sabers and certainly can take him on in the Force.
Darth Plagueis has greater speed and telekinesis feats than Krayt has, roughly equal Force Lightning and far better healing/durability. Krayt has greater saber skill.
This is by no means the easy win you portray, if it is a win at all.
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Exar Kun perfected Niman to a level that only Krayt comes close to, he dvolved it to a pure offensive fighting form and he incorporated Trākata into his form, combined with his equally bizarre saberstaff, makes him unique in the mythos.
Even without this advantage he was a complete equal for master duelist Ulic Qel-Droma and was capable of defeating Vodo one of the greatest lightsaber instructors multiple times, throughout his apprenticeship.
With that hybridized form Exar Kun could stomp Vodo Siosk-Baas in pure sabers and who knows how a duel with Ulic would have gone given this advantage as well.
Keep in mind Ulic Qel-Droma, a master of Djem So, was capable of blitzing Warb Null, solidly defeating Mandalore, solidly defeating Cay Qel-Droma and without the Force defeating enraged Sylvar. I won't even use the considerable hype around Ulic himself, including greatest Jedi, etc..
Revan by constrast only has Drew statements to even signify what kind of duelist he was, claimed to not be a specialist but a diversifier and then (rather contradictory) stated to primarily be a Niman user. The irony here should not be lost on anyone, Drew believes Revan is a Niman user because he incorporates Force powers into his sequences, Exar Kun did away with the balancing act of the form Revan uses. This balance was designed for unskilled Consulars and Kun completed the form in a way akin to Vaapad, turning it into a purely offensive lightsaber form, even hybridizing it with other rarer lightsaber techniques.
Exar Kun is without doubt Revan's strong superior in pure saber combat.
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The only mention of Kun using Niman was simply the name "Niman" in a Campaign Guide Sourcebook. I honestly doubt Niman is his main lightsaber form.
Sounds like a pretty terrible approach for the "moderation" or "diplomat's" form.
Trakata was the art of turning off the blade, not adjusting the blade lengths. There is a clear difference that Mara (or was it Corran?) elaborated on in NJO, IIRC.
Indeed, his saberstaff is pretty badass.
You need to be more than "unique" to best Revan.
Forgive me, but I would think one would have to be more than an "master duelist" to rival that of the great Sith Lord Exar Kun.
Also, despite popular belief, Darth Revan is obviously an "master duelist" - even more so than Ulic Qel-Droma. The Dark Lord is a "high-level master of multiple forms," having at least mastered the lightsaber forms Shii-Cho, Makashi, Soresu, and Trākata, and probably all the others as well given his complete training with various other Jedi Masters.
"He came to me, yes. Both before and after, before Revan knew herself. And after, in the times when Revan was coming into his own and learning he was more than he had been told. At one time, Revan was my Padawan. In times past, long ago. But Revan, when he had learned all he could, had other masters: that fool Zhar, and other Jedi on other planets. He learned from each. But in the end, he turned back to me. When he realized there was nothing more to be learned from the Jedi - except how one could leave them forever."
―Kreia (Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2: The Sith Lords)
"Revan had many Masters, Zhar, Dorak, Master Kae before Kae left for the Wars. Towards the end of his training, he sought out many to learn techniques. It is said that he returned to his first Master at the end of his training, in order to learn how he might best leave the Order."
―Mical (Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2: The Sith Lords)
"Only high-level masters of multiple forms can achieve and control the ultimate discipline known as Form VII."
―Star Wars Insider 62: Fightsaber
Characters like Mandalore the Ultimate, Yusanis of Echani, Darth Bandon, Bastila Shan, and Darth Malak can fit into the bucket of master combatants as well for obvious reasons. Revan defeated them all, though.
Yes, impressive indeed (though he didn't blitz him, and IIRC, he struggled in battle with him during their first encounter). Tell me how it is more impressive than defeating Darth Bandon, the most powerful Dark Jedi out of "dozens if not hundreds" of "highly skilled duelists" (Source: Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide). And unlike Warb Null, he has the blood of twenty Jedi on his belt.
Revan defeated Mandalore the Ultimate, a greater warrior than Mandalorian than Mandalore the Indomitable (Source: Star Wars: The Bounty Hunter Code), far before his prime. It is even likely that Revan had to fight through Mandalore's entire flagship to get to him, killing countless Mandalorian soldiers before even reaching him. Mandalore the Ultimate was even capable of defeating the second greatest Jedi of the era (Source: Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic Prima Guide) with just one crippling blow.
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This isn't a feat, lol. Before the fight, Cay's ship is shot down by Ulic Qel-Droma, injuring him. Ulic confirms these injuries when he states, "don't force me to hurt you further." When they began to fight, Cay specifically stated that he didn't want to fight him, but Ulic pressed on anyway, forcing his brother into battle. The Dark Lord slew his brother in rage while the other proclaimed his love for him. I fail to see how this is an accomplishment... sorry?
"Before the shock waves reached the planet, Cay Qel-Droma confronted his brother, attempting once again to free Ulic from the grip of the dark side. He failed, and Ulic killed him."
―Star Wars: Dark Side Sourcebook
Not necessarily. He extensively trained Vima Sunrider in the art of lightsaber combat (ex: http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...35785-blz02.jpg), and they even made that magnificent sculpture of the Jedi. He would have had time to adjust to his new self definitely. The feat, however still impressive, will not be a deal-breaker at all. Many non-Force sensitives have been shown to be able to fight Jedi in single-combat without any issue. The Mandalorians, Echani, and Imperial Guard are examples of this.
"I'll add your head to those of the other Jedi I have killed, and take yet another lightsaber for my own."
―Sherruk the Mandalorian (Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic)
Poor choice.
Hm, of course Master Vodo Siosk-Baas stood no chance in defeating Exar Kun - that wasn't his goal. He wasn't "stomped" though, not at all.
"Because I was his Master, I alone of the allied Jedi went to confront him, hoping that I could turn him back. I knew it was a foolish mission, but I had no choice. I had to try."
―Vodo Siosk-Baas (Star Wars: Jedi vs. Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force)
Master Vodo-Siosk Baas's goal was to turn Exar Kun back to the light, something explicitly seen in the battle. Another source confirms this, saying Vodo Siosk-Baas did not try to defeat Exar Kun until the very end of the duel, in which Vodo had already grew weaker from defending himself. Finally, just when the Jedi Master vowed to meet his apprentice's charge, he was struck down, never allowing us to see how the battle would have then played out.
"But Master Vodo-Siosk Baas stepped onto the floor: the diminutive Jedi would stand against him. Exar Kun battled his old Master, using a doublebladed lightsaber and all the Sith tricks he had learned. He tried to lure Vodo to join his Sith cause, but the Jedi Master refused. As the fight continued, Vodo grew weaker and Kun gained strength. Finally, just as Vodo vowed that he would defeat Exar Kun, the Dark Lord struck with his lightsaber and killed his teacher."
―Star Wars: Essential Chronology
Additionally, the above quote also shows a different perspective of the battle. Exar Kun unleashed all his powers against the Jedi Master, including Sith magic and sorcery, yet Master Vodo-Siosk Baas seemingly resisted it all. Despite the Dark Lord of the Sith giving his all, and the Jedi simply defending himself, Master Baas' stand against Exar Kun shows that even when having no defense the modifications of his changing lightsaber blade, powerful combatants can hold their own. Under circumstances with Revan, in which the modifications of the blade will have no issue, Exar Kun wouldn't really stand a chance.
Disgustingly untrue.
Why are we discussing Revan Reborn when the thread is about SOR Revan?
"But Master Vodo-Siosk Baas stepped onto the floor: the diminutive Jedi would stand against him. Exar Kun battled his old Master, using a doublebladed lightsaber and all the Sith tricks he had learned. He tried to lure Vodo to join his Sith cause, but the Jedi Master refused. As the fight continued, Vodo grew weaker and Kun gained strength. Finally, just as Vodo vowed that he would defeat Exar Kun, the Dark Lord struck with his lightsaber and killed his teacher."
―Star Wars: Essential Chronology
Huh
Another one for Vodo's Force Defense in the respect thread when I can bother then :hmm
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