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Starkiller vs. Vitiate
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XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
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Starkiller vs. Vitiate

Vitiate as of Revan. No TP for Vitiate. Fight takes place in Sidious's Death Star Throne Room.


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Jaggarath
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Probably Starkiller (he's less powerful but a better combatant). Vitiate won't have time to do the kind of charged attacks he did against Revan.


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I don't see how Starkiller would get through Vitiate's Force Lightning Storm, should this come down to it.

In short, Vitiate after some effort.

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Probably Starkiller (he's less powerful but a better combatant). Vitiate won't have time to do the kind of charged attacks he did against Revan.

How is Starkiller a better combatant?

Also, being a better combatant means nothing when their is substantial power gap between the combatants involved.

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Starkiller wins if Vitiate doesn't have access to TP, his lightning won't do shit


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^ Agreed. With this OP, Starkiller wins.

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Yep. Starkiller was temporary able to absorb even Palpatine's FL which is superior to everything Vitiate can do (except perhaps TP).

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Originally posted by carthage
Starkiller wins if Vitiate doesn't have access to TP, his lightning won't do shit

Vitiate's Force Lightning Storm was hot enough to superheat (or possibly melt) metal and intense enough to reduce Revan to ash. And you say that it won't do shit? That Starkiller is somehow immune to it?

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Yep. Starkiller was temporary able to absorb even Palpatine's FL which is superior to everything Vitiate can do (except perhaps TP).

Darth Sidious was not going all-out against Starkiller in the canonized scenario because Sidious was interested in luring Starkiller to the Dark Side. In the alternate scenario, Sidious became serious and overwhelmed Starkiller with a single blast of Force Lightning.

Vitiate is a being of tremendous raw power and dark mindset. These characteristics reflect in his powers and most cannot withstand them. Their can be methods to bypass telepathic assaults but Force Lightning is a different game.

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AncientPower
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Galen Marek died in the process of using Tutaminis against Sidious' Force Lightning, he was becoming one with the Force as he advanced on him.

The same thing would happen here, clearly Starkiller isn't Revan's equal let alone Yoda's.


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Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Vitiate as of Revan. No TP for Vitiate. Fight takes place in Sidious's Death Star Throne Room.


Which incarnation of 'Killer?

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Vitiate, same as the fight with Sidious.


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Galen Marek died in the process of using Tutaminis against Sidious' Force Lightning, he was becoming one with the Force as he advanced on him.

The same thing would happen here, clearly Starkiller isn't Revan's equal let alone Yoda's.


Vitiate isn't Sidious, especially Revan!Vitiate. 'Killer has the feats and accolades to take this incarnation of Vitiate.

TFU2!Starkiller stomps.

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AncientPower
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Vitiate is an extremely powerful Sith Lord in Sidious' realm of power, he was capable of overwhelming Revan as soon as he got serious. Starkiller isn't doing any better against this Emperor than he did the other.


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Vitiate is an extremely powerful Sith Lord in Sidious' realm of power,


I'd remind you again that this is Vitiate as of Revan. But you're welcome to make your case.

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he was capable of overwhelming Revan as soon as he got serious.


Vitiate's opening move, the attempted mindhaxx, apparently demanded a substantial portion of his own energy per the text.

So I'm not sure how one isn't serious when one's very first move is apparently taking a lot of effort.

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Starkiller isn't doing any better against this Emperor than he did the other.


The Emperor whom 'Killer was no match for is much more powerful than the emperor he faces in this thread. erm

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AncientPower
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You realise of course that incorporeal Vitiate doing what he did is only even more impressive than if he had accomplished it physically. Considering how extremely difficult it is to maintain a disembodied essence, Exar Kun required the temples of Yavin IV for example to even maintain his existence, then the energies of prodigal apprentices to act at all.


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You realise of course that incorporeal Vitiate doing what he did is only even more impressive than if he had accomplished it physically. Considering how extremely difficult it is to maintain a disembodied essence, Exar Kun required the temples of Yavin IV for example to even maintain his existence, then the energies of prodigal apprentices to act at all.


....what? Dude, this is Vitiate as of Revan. The book. Where nothing he did involved shedding his mortal coil.

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AncientPower
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Yes but clearly those kinds of feats remain within his power regardless of state,he simply couldn't apply it without the Empire turning on him.


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Sinious
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I don't get why people like to think there is a HUGE power gap between novel Vitiate and Ziost Vitiate. If 300 years of progression+draining Revan(well Meetra actually) is that empowering for him, then he should've already become a force god after Natemha+1100 years of progression which he did not.


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Nephthys
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He is a Force God.


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Sinious
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More like the Force God. smokin'


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Yes but clearly those kinds of feats remain within his power regardless of state,he simply couldn't apply it without the Empire turning on him.


That sounds awfully speculative to me.

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