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Well Valkorion have hype in encyclopedic medium and DE Sidious can consume the entire SW universe or some shit, so team two stomps
[SPOILER - highlight to read]: JK, both of the above are stupid arguments
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If we're going to take Goku = universe buster claims seriously, it's fair that we take the canonically Sidious = universe buster seriously too.
TP resistance feats for Goku? I know he's done some mind reading in early DBZ but idr him using or resisting it often.
Also unless if it's been retconned, Goku can be killed by a laser if he lets his guard down. Sidious/Valkorion die, Goku thinks they're gone, then suddenly BAM a clone of Sidious kills him. GG
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Nope, not retconned. If he powers down, he's not all that strong. If he powers up, he can destroy planets with punches and kicks and contend with Universal Gods.
Unless they can instantaneously break his will as spirits, or manage to hit him with an attack as a spirit that will legit oneshot him, he'll have his guard back up and they won't be able to do shit.
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Uh, no. Even when powered down, he'd be far physically stronger than these two, and likely more powerful than anything they can dish out. It's not like Goku goes to being a normal person. Comparing these two to laser beams is retarded.