You have him above both Sidious and Valkorion? Even if he is, I don't see how his superiority is anything greater than a slight margin given the hype and planet killer feats these guys have. Yoda on the other hand would most likely fail to do great against either of the Emperors in a force fight.
Non jobbing Luke has a more than slight superiority over Sidious and Valkorion, being honest. Luke is equal or superior to them in every area that they can actually be compared, (raw power, TK, illusions, speed, physicality, etc). I mean, this dude pinned Caedus to a chair without effort, stonewalled UnuThul's telekinesis, defeated DE Sidious in a duel long before his prime, and has probably the most ridiculous learning curve in the mythos.
That said, yeah Yoda wouldn't be stalemating them in a force fight by any means. Hence why I said I'm uncertain.
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Vitiate and Valkorion are the same person, and there's nothing to suggest he grew in power from SWTOR to KotFE. He's been Valkorion for hundreds of years prior to the game's start.
Valkorion is the MVP here because of his ability to manifest as a disembodied being after loosing a physical vessel and still be able to affect the external environment in profound ways.
Based on?
Luke Skywalker have nothing on Valkorion's Ziost based showings.
So?
Darth Caedus doesn't have showings even on par with Darth Vader.
What are UnuThul's feats in general?
More like out-dueled him. Palpatine's advantage was in the domain of Force powers that he didn't put to good use against Luke Skywalker for some reason.
Even Exar Kun was capable of defeating DE/Early NJO Luke Skywalker.
Was gonna ask about UnuThul myself, and not sure if Caedus was trying to resist Luke's TK with the force. IIRC, he was trying really hard to avoid pissing off Luke.
Vitiate was Valkorion while he was still using the former name. He didn't just become Valkorion or anything. I don't think we've ever seen him as just Vitiate.
And Vitiate did that to Ziost to recover his depleted energy.
^ ok, thanks for admitting that Ziost didn't make Vitiate any stromger, and that KotfE Valkorion (because we were talking about that one, duh) is still bound by the Sidious ceiling.
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Rivi-Anu (random CW padawan) > every Jedi during the CW barring capital ship benchlifting feat?
That's what your logic is doing for you right now.
And if you argue Yoda/Windu etc > her via accolades, despite inferior feats, then the same has to apply for Sidious being > Valkorion. (though I'm sure someone else can argue for Sidious having better feats regardless).
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Yeah, and Sidious overpowering Yoda's Absorption is better than any of Valkorion's Lightning feats as well. Yoda >>> Arcann, Marr, etc. Now add on decades of power growth. In his prime, Sidious > Valkorion, by both feats and accolades.
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