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...Ok...so one being vs a ship that could extinguish entire planets....yeah how is this not spite? Only the most powerful TPs could do it telepathy wise and that's if they could affect the minds of the entire crew before they get blasted.
Alright, so a regular Force user could do it. What about anyone who could just telekinetically crush the crew members, or just the important ones? Essence transfer? etc.
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Palps isn't really a regular Force User by DE. Or well in the sense of regular he can be killed and that's it, as he has Essence Transfer to use.
Again they would have to be powerful enough in TK to pinpoint all the important crew members simultaneously and kill them before the person gets blasted, which not many can do to that great a number at once.
Right it's more than zero, but I wouldn't be going into the double digits here. Because taking into account of where each person is on the ship, let's look at the layout of an ISD shall we?
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Looking here, said Force User would need to target at the least 6 separate locations at once to effectively cripple the ISD to make it inoperable for combat.
1. Command Bridge
2. Primary power generator
3. Subsidiary reactor
4. Auxiliary reactor
5. Heavy turbolaser stations
6. Quad laser battery
Now the Turbolaser stations, there are 275 Gunners.
In a pinch however, Stormtroopers and Army Troopers could also operate the Turbolasers given their skill sets. So since an ISD carries a full division(Battlegroup) of Stormtroopers which is 8,192 Stormtroopers, the rest being 1,508 Army Troopers giving a grand total of 9,700 Troops on board.
So the Force User in question would need to target all of the systems, plus over 10k personnel at once or otherwise be killed by incoming turbolaser fire.
Which there isn't many capable of doing that.
Even if you take away the Troopers, the Force User would still need to target different sections of the ships at once and affect the crew members.
If The Force User just goes to focus on one thing, they'll get blasted even if they pull it off. Thus at best it becomes a stalemate.
EVEN then, the Force User would also have to pinpoint where these systems are on the ship from their position, going through a ton of machinery to even affect it, which again...there isn't many that could do that.
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Last edited by Zenwolf on May 25th, 2016 at 02:35 PM
With TP included, guys that can pull it off:
- Valkorion,
- Darth Thanaton?
- Darth Nox,
- Satele Shan,
- Arcann?
- Revan,
- Dread Masters,
- Lord Sadic?
- Sel Makor,
- Palpatine.
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No they don't, they have to kill the Gunners. The Gunners are the danger, not the Command bridge.
I merely just listed what said Force User needs to do, to make the ship entirely inoperable for combat.
Even if you take away all of what I listed and just focus on the Gunners, the Gunners are in different sections of the ship, which means dividing attention and focus.
That and it's still near 300 guys they would have to TP, which as far as TP wise goes, I don't recall even many powerful Force Users(in the double digits anyway) being able to affect that many minds at once.
Plus as noted, I was looking at it from no TP since Ell asked about who could do it without TP which isn't many.
Last edited by Zenwolf on May 25th, 2016 at 02:44 PM
By the time that happens, the Force User would have already been obliterated by Turbolaser fire, since all the crew know about said Force User and are prepared(as noted by the OP) thus even if the Commanding Officer is TP'd, the Gunners and other crew would know and ignore such orders.
PLUS again Beni I was looking at it from a NON-TP scenario, since Ell asked me who could without TP.
There are more Force Users that can do it with TP than without, but in both scenarios, the numbers aren't heavy.
Last edited by Zenwolf on May 25th, 2016 at 02:50 PM
Yeah. Not that much as a combatant, but as a Force user definitely.
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