KMC Forums

 
  REGISTER HERE TO JOIN IN! - It's easy and it's free!
Already a member? Log-in!
 
 
Home » Star Wars » Star Wars: Literature & Expanded Universe » Star Wars Versus Forum » Force users that can defeat a star destroyer


Force users that can defeat a star destroyer
Started by: The Ellimist

Forum Jump:
Post New Thread    Post A Reply
Pages (2): [1] 2 »   Last Thread   Next Thread
Author
Thread
The Ellimist
The Shadow

Registered: Apr 2016
Location: United States


 

Force users that can defeat a star destroyer

It seems like very few believe that Valkorion could defeat Sovereign.

So is there anyone who could stand a chance against an infinitely more powerful ISD?

The character is on a planet and the ISD is lined up right above it in orbit. Both are aware and prepared for one another.

Bonus round: no telepathy


__________________
Join the new Star Wars vs. forum: Suspect Insight Forums (not url'd for spam prevention)

Old Post May 25th, 2016 12:51 PM
Click here to Send The Ellimist a Private Message Find more posts by The Ellimist Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
JKBart
Restricted

Registered: Aug 2015
Location: Poland

Account Restricted


 

Abeluth


__________________


They are angry because they have been forced to recognize that their hour has arrived; that the time has come to surrender power to Shimrra and the new order."

Old Post May 25th, 2016 12:52 PM
Click here to Send JKBart a Private Message Find more posts by JKBart Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
NewGuy01
perpetual

Registered: Jan 2013
Location: USA


 

Some of the TP-proficient masters could probably pull it off.


__________________

Old Post May 25th, 2016 12:58 PM
Click here to Send NewGuy01 a Private Message Find more posts by NewGuy01 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Zenwolf
Senior Member

Registered: Dec 2013
Location: United States


 

...Ok...so one being vs a ship that could extinguish entire planets....yeah how is this not spite? Only the most powerful TPs could do it telepathy wise and that's if they could affect the minds of the entire crew before they get blasted.

Bonus round? No regular Force User could.


__________________
"Commence primary ignition."

Old Post May 25th, 2016 01:04 PM
Click here to Send Zenwolf a Private Message Find more posts by Zenwolf Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
The Ellimist
The Shadow

Registered: Apr 2016
Location: United States


 

Not Wankatine?


__________________
Join the new Star Wars vs. forum: Suspect Insight Forums (not url'd for spam prevention)

Old Post May 25th, 2016 01:10 PM
Click here to Send The Ellimist a Private Message Find more posts by The Ellimist Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Zenwolf
Senior Member

Registered: Dec 2013
Location: United States


 

If it's DE Palps, he could just Force Storm it.

Prior? No.


__________________
"Commence primary ignition."

Old Post May 25th, 2016 01:15 PM
Click here to Send Zenwolf a Private Message Find more posts by Zenwolf Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
The Ellimist
The Shadow

Registered: Apr 2016
Location: United States


 

Alright, so a regular Force user could do it. What about anyone who could just telekinetically crush the crew members, or just the important ones? Essence transfer? etc.


__________________
Join the new Star Wars vs. forum: Suspect Insight Forums (not url'd for spam prevention)

Old Post May 25th, 2016 01:22 PM
Click here to Send The Ellimist a Private Message Find more posts by The Ellimist Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Zenwolf
Senior Member

Registered: Dec 2013
Location: United States


 

Palps isn't really a regular Force User by DE. Or well in the sense of regular he can be killed and that's it, as he has Essence Transfer to use.

Again they would have to be powerful enough in TK to pinpoint all the important crew members simultaneously and kill them before the person gets blasted, which not many can do to that great a number at once.


__________________
"Commence primary ignition."

Old Post May 25th, 2016 01:33 PM
Click here to Send Zenwolf a Private Message Find more posts by Zenwolf Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Beniboybling
Worst Member

Registered: Jul 2014
Location: United Kingdom


 

Caedus has accomplished something similar so he could probably do it.


__________________

Old Post May 25th, 2016 01:34 PM
Click here to Send Beniboybling a Private Message Find more posts by Beniboybling Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
The Ellimist
The Shadow

Registered: Apr 2016
Location: United States


 

Of course not many can, but it's more than zero, right?


__________________
Join the new Star Wars vs. forum: Suspect Insight Forums (not url'd for spam prevention)

Old Post May 25th, 2016 01:34 PM
Click here to Send The Ellimist a Private Message Find more posts by The Ellimist Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Zenwolf
Senior Member

Registered: Dec 2013
Location: United States


 

Right it's more than zero, but I wouldn't be going into the double digits here. Because taking into account of where each person is on the ship, let's look at the layout of an ISD shall we?

(please log in to view the image)

Looking here, said Force User would need to target at the least 6 separate locations at once to effectively cripple the ISD to make it inoperable for combat.

1. Command Bridge

2. Primary power generator

3. Subsidiary reactor

4. Auxiliary reactor

5. Heavy turbolaser stations

6. Quad laser battery

Now the Turbolaser stations, there are 275 Gunners.

In a pinch however, Stormtroopers and Army Troopers could also operate the Turbolasers given their skill sets. So since an ISD carries a full division(Battlegroup) of Stormtroopers which is 8,192 Stormtroopers, the rest being 1,508 Army Troopers giving a grand total of 9,700 Troops on board.

So the Force User in question would need to target all of the systems, plus over 10k personnel at once or otherwise be killed by incoming turbolaser fire.

Which there isn't many capable of doing that.

Even if you take away the Troopers, the Force User would still need to target different sections of the ships at once and affect the crew members.

If The Force User just goes to focus on one thing, they'll get blasted even if they pull it off. Thus at best it becomes a stalemate.

EVEN then, the Force User would also have to pinpoint where these systems are on the ship from their position, going through a ton of machinery to even affect it, which again...there isn't many that could do that.


__________________
"Commence primary ignition."

Last edited by Zenwolf on May 25th, 2016 at 02:35 PM

Old Post May 25th, 2016 02:29 PM
Click here to Send Zenwolf a Private Message Find more posts by Zenwolf Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Beniboybling
Worst Member

Registered: Jul 2014
Location: United Kingdom


 

They only need take control if the bridge Wolf. erm


__________________

Old Post May 25th, 2016 02:30 PM
Click here to Send Beniboybling a Private Message Find more posts by Beniboybling Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
JKBart
Restricted

Registered: Aug 2015
Location: Poland

Account Restricted


 

With TP included, guys that can pull it off:
- Valkorion,
- Darth Thanaton?
- Darth Nox,
- Satele Shan,
- Arcann?
- Revan,
- Dread Masters,
- Lord Sadic?
- Sel Makor,
- Palpatine.


__________________


They are angry because they have been forced to recognize that their hour has arrived; that the time has come to surrender power to Shimrra and the new order."

Old Post May 25th, 2016 02:36 PM
Click here to Send JKBart a Private Message Find more posts by JKBart Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Zenwolf
Senior Member

Registered: Dec 2013
Location: United States


 

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Beniboybling
They only need take control if the bridge Wolf. erm


No they don't, they have to kill the Gunners. The Gunners are the danger, not the Command bridge.

I merely just listed what said Force User needs to do, to make the ship entirely inoperable for combat.

Even if you take away all of what I listed and just focus on the Gunners, the Gunners are in different sections of the ship, which means dividing attention and focus.

That and it's still near 300 guys they would have to TP, which as far as TP wise goes, I don't recall even many powerful Force Users(in the double digits anyway) being able to affect that many minds at once.

Plus as noted, I was looking at it from no TP since Ell asked about who could do it without TP which isn't many.

Last edited by Zenwolf on May 25th, 2016 at 02:44 PM

Old Post May 25th, 2016 02:38 PM
Click here to Send Zenwolf a Private Message Find more posts by Zenwolf Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Beniboybling
Worst Member

Registered: Jul 2014
Location: United Kingdom


 

Or... the take command of the bridge, order the gunners to stop firing then intiate a self destruct. thumb up


__________________

Old Post May 25th, 2016 02:44 PM
Click here to Send Beniboybling a Private Message Find more posts by Beniboybling Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Zenwolf
Senior Member

Registered: Dec 2013
Location: United States


 

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Or... the take command of the bridge, order the gunners to stop firing then intiate a self destruct. thumb up


By the time that happens, the Force User would have already been obliterated by Turbolaser fire, since all the crew know about said Force User and are prepared(as noted by the OP) thus even if the Commanding Officer is TP'd, the Gunners and other crew would know and ignore such orders.

PLUS again Beni I was looking at it from a NON-TP scenario, since Ell asked me who could without TP.

There are more Force Users that can do it with TP than without, but in both scenarios, the numbers aren't heavy.

Last edited by Zenwolf on May 25th, 2016 at 02:50 PM

Old Post May 25th, 2016 02:46 PM
Click here to Send Zenwolf a Private Message Find more posts by Zenwolf Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
hutchy1345
Senior Member

Registered: Mar 2013
Location:


 

quote: (post)
Originally posted by JKBart
With TP included, guys that can pull it off:
- Valkorion,
- Darth Thanaton?
- Darth Nox,
- Satele Shan,
- Arcann?
- Revan,
- Dread Masters,
- Lord Sadic?
- Sel Makor,
- Palpatine.


Is satele really that strong?!


__________________

Old Post May 25th, 2016 02:58 PM
Click here to Send hutchy1345 a Private Message Find more posts by hutchy1345 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
JKBart
Restricted

Registered: Aug 2015
Location: Poland

Account Restricted


 

Yeah. Not that much as a combatant, but as a Force user definitely.


__________________


They are angry because they have been forced to recognize that their hour has arrived; that the time has come to surrender power to Shimrra and the new order."

Old Post May 25th, 2016 02:58 PM
Click here to Send JKBart a Private Message Find more posts by JKBart Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Petrus
Debonaire Member

Registered: Sep 2013
Location: Lost in space


 

quote: (post)
Originally posted by JKBart
Yeah. Not that much as a combatant, but as a Force user definitely.


How so, Bart?

Old Post May 25th, 2016 03:00 PM
Click here to Send Petrus a Private Message Find more posts by Petrus Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Zenwolf
Senior Member

Registered: Dec 2013
Location: United States


 

Does she even have noteworthy TP feats? From what I've gathered, she's not strong enough to take an ISD out herself.


__________________
"Commence primary ignition."

Old Post May 25th, 2016 03:11 PM
Click here to Send Zenwolf a Private Message Find more posts by Zenwolf Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
All times are UTC. The time now is 12:35 PM.
Pages (2): [1] 2 »   Last Thread   Next Thread

Email this Page
Subscribe to this Thread
   Post New Thread  Post A Reply

Forum Jump:
Search by user:
 

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is OFF
vB code is ON
Smilies are ON
[IMG] code is ON

Text-only version
 

< Contact Us - KillerMovies.com - Forum Archive - Forum Rules >


© Copyright 2000-2006, KillerMovies.com. All Rights Reserved.
Forum powered by: vBulletin, copyright ©2000-2006, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.