Seeing as how the godly Vitiate couldn't even dominate Scourge and Meetra on a dark side nexus just because Revan gave them a pep talk a few hours before, and couldn't read Scourge's mind afterwards, and then couldn't mentally dominate the Outlander, yeah, it definitely isn't a debate. He's never controlled someone as powerful as Galen or Vader, so any assertions that he could would be based entirely on some sort of extrapolation that I haven't seen anyone persuasively articulate.
Regardless, I would say that this duo would defeat Vitiate, if Revan + Meetra + Scourge stood a decent chance against a somewhat weaker incarnation on a dark side nexus. They're strong enough in the Force to hurt him seriously there, and combatively competent enough to keep him on his toes given their ability to go in close for the kill.
I'd say peak Vader + Galen could split with RotS Sidious.
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Vitiate fails to dominate Kira Carsen, Hero of Tython, and fodder like Lana Beniko but can dominate Vader who can will himself back to life? Lmfao
The duo succeeds where Revan failed
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Vitiate never even attempted to dominate Scourge and Meetra Surik. However, 300 years later, it's revealed Scourge cannot even resist weakened Vitiate's telepathy, so no.
What? The Outlander openly admits he has no defense against Valkorion infiltrating his mind. And Valkorion then specifically states "I no longer require a slave," so no.
Palpatine sent Vader on his knees from across the galaxy. Vader has no defense against top-level telepaths and you know it.
And Marek's unstable as ****. There's absolutely nothing to suggest his willpower is even greater than damn Tol Braga or Scourge.
Even despite the mass circumstances behind the feat, sending Malak and Revan to their knees is sufficient proof he can do the same to this duo.
The willpower feats Malak and Revan are packing are absolutely insane between Malachor V, Nathema, and soon after the Star Forge.
Vader has nothing going for him and Marek even less so. They're pathetic Force-users when it comes to anything relevant to the ancient Sith Lords.
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Last edited by Jaggarath on Jun 21st, 2016 at 03:59 AM
elimist is good, but here it is clear that he doesn't know what he is talking about as Ant pointed out. Both the novel and the game heavily focus on how Vitiate's TP has to be bypassed somehow in order to defeat him. He is Nitpicking as he points to the details to avoid the big picture but even then his intrrpretation of the details is flawed. Bypassing his TP has been achieved with either prior exposure to his TP or with the assistance of someone who has had that experience already. Neither Vader nor Galen will benefit from that if Vitiate is allowed to use his TP.
Jun 21st, 2016 02:31 AM
