nihilus fully fed and in perfect physical condition
location = ravager bridge
start 20m apart
speed equalized
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gauntlet:
warmup: 65bby sidious
1 early apprentice sidious
2 52 bby sidious
3 tpm sidious (pre plagy death)
4 tpm sidious (post plagy death)
5 aotc sidious
6 rots sidious
7 anh sidious
8 rotj sidious
9 de sidious
10 tpm sidious+rots sidious
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Potentially, Revan has the knowledge to block Nihilus (darthant can explain that better than me), Valkorion's probably dead, Luke and the Ones might survive based on what they are in the first place. But that's speculation.
I know Ants arguments, and I agree with them. I just wanted to see if you agree. It is likely that Palpatine knows blocking force drain as well,as he potentially has teached it Dooku.
And again: Nihilius never has drained an Force User stronger than himself-especially so ridicioulous more powerful.
No might, before the "survive" please
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"I don't feel no ways tired. I've been too far, from where I started from. Nobody told me that the road would be easy! I don't believe he brought me this far to leave me! "- Rev. James Cleaveland yesterday, today, and tomorrow - the fight continues: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFwRkNWx-n0 love and kindness:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHp69F7vrLU
Sidious doesn't need to block Nihilus' Drain, by the way. By definition, Nihilus' Drain requires him to Sever Palpatine, which he can't do since Sheev is more powerful.
It's not Severing in the sense of your average Sever Force, but it's Severing you from life itself as well. This is mentioned more than once in KotOR II:
There's a reason why Meetra wasn't Draining people when they were alive, but only doing so once they died - because this technique feeds on death, not life. It requires you to cause death by Severing connections between life and the Force, and then feeding on the death(s) that occurs as a consequence. This is also why this ability is distinct from other versions of Drain displayed in the mythos.
It stands to reason that Nihilus can't do this against beings who are more powerful than him. The no-limits fallacy of "Nihilus kills all with Drain" is also disproven in KotOR II, since Traya survived Nihilus' Drain despite him Draining to kill.
And the case with Traya also links back to what I said above, since the KotORCG claims that her powers were drained by her apprentices, yet she claims in KotOR II that she was "stripped of her powers". It was an incomplete process of the quotes I provided above.
To all the people who think that Nihilus (or even Traya) can instakill anybody with their Drain bar Surik, they're dead wrong, as per KotOR II.
Last edited by SunRazer on Sep 12th, 2016 at 09:34 AM
The fact that Traya survived where all of Katarr (bar Visas) didn't is incredibly impressive, yes. As is the fact that Sion was potentially involved in Traya's case, as well.
And yes, it puts an end to the argument that Nihilus/Traya have an Instakill Drain vs anyone, which was a no-limits fallacy from the get-go.