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The Merchant
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Nihilus vs. Palpatine.

ROTS Palpatine is chilling on Nar Shadaa, when suddenly Nihilus barges in his room! Who wins?


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Another one? Palpatine kills him.

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Palpatine oneshots, given that he's canonically the most powerful Sith Lord in galactic history by TPM, before experiencing an astronomical power increase on Plagueis's death.

Nihilus's drain isn't necessarily special - Palpatine knew drain even as an apprentice.


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ROTS Palpatine is chilling on Nar Shadaa, when suddenly Nihilus barges in his room! Who wins?


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To quote a well-known sayer of words, "do the math."

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Nihilus drains

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To quote a well-known sayer of words, "do the math."


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Nihilus drains


A veritable Fields medalist, you are.

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A veritable Fields medalist, you are.
Nihilus' drain has no defense against it, it's not normal drain, this has been confirmed, and nothing disproves the claim. Sidious has no defense against against the Force Wound Drain employed by Nihilus. Plus, Sidious has never demonstrated the ability to casually drain the life from an entire planet nigh-instantly.

Nihilus is out of ROTS Sheev's league.

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Palpatine, easily.

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Nihilus' drain has no defense against it, it's not normal drain, this has been confirmed, and nothing disproves the claim.


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Sidious has no defense against against the Force Wound Drain employed by Nihilus.


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Plus, Sidious has never demonstrated the ability to casually drain the life from an entire planet nigh-instantly.


He's only more powerful than someone who can, though.

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Nihilus is out of ROTS Sheev's league.


Indeed. To labor your metaphor, Sidious would be in the MLB whereas Nihilus is probably off somewhere in Kansas swinging a bat around in his church intramural league.

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Traya says Nihilus drain has no defense=True fax.

Traya says Nihilus prime will only rival some Ancient Sith=BS.

Traya implies Nihilus and co. Are but shadows of the true Sith=also BS.


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Traya also says Nihilus can't consume all life yet. She also says that he uses the same technique as the assassins, who use their powers on the Exile and co. just fine but obviously don't win.

Nihilus hasn't ever shown Drain against a more powerful opponent and even against lesser enemies he seems to like stunning his opponents before draining them, which is odd if he can just do it and kill them.

Katarr is a blatantly circumstantial feat given that he's been put in similar situations (TCSWE's various other planets, Telos IV) and failed to replicate it. As we don't know the circumstances leading up to Katarr other than the fact that it was a surprise attack, it's a logical deduction to assume that he benefitted from circumstances not afforded to him whenever he attacked another planet. Or indeed, in a random versus scenario. My guess is substantial time and preparation.

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Last time Merchant made a RotS Sheev vs ancient Sith thread, every Vitidiot ended up having their pussies wet clamoring to a supposedly ground-breaking revelation of how Sheev sucks and the ancients shall reign paramount once more. In 30 minutes, said revelation had been twisted in Sheev's favor and ended up backfiring spectacularly, raising Sheev's ranking near-universally to the amusing result of AP trying to save face with its usually moronic vomit that somehow passes as an argument these days.

I wonder if something similar will happen this time as well. History is prone to repeat itself.


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Last time Merchant made a RotS Sheev vs ancient Sith thread, every Vitidiot ended up having their pussies wet clamoring to a supposedly ground-breaking revelation of how Sheev sucks and the ancients shall reign paramount once more. In 30 minutes, said revelation had been twisted in Sheev's favor and ended up backfiring spectacularly, raising Sheev's ranking near-universally to the amusing result of AP trying to save face with its usually moronic vomit that somehow passes as an argument these days.

I wonder if something similar will happen this time as well. History is prone to repeat itself.


Link?


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I think it my Marka Ragnos vs. Palpatine thread.


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Link?


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From the link -

AP is wanking how the ancient sith spirits were beating up Palpatine:

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Funny how Palpatine was utterly overwhelmed by Ragnos and a few other, lesser spirits and nearly died. Requiring a bacta tank to heal himself no less.


*Azronger turns the feat around and notes that a weakened Sheev basically came close to solo'ing Korriban*

AP suddenly thinks his own feat is meaningless:

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We have no idea how many spirits even attacked him though.


LMFAOLMFAO


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Traya also says Nihilus can't consume all life yet. She also says that he uses the same technique as the assassins, who use their powers on the Exile and co. just fine but obviously don't win.

Nihilus hasn't ever shown Drain against a more powerful opponent and even against lesser enemies he seems to like stunning his opponents before draining them, which is odd if he can just do it and kill them.

Katarr is a blatantly circumstantial feat given that he's been put in similar situations (TCSWE's various other planets, Telos IV) and failed to replicate it. As we don't know the circumstances leading up to Katarr other than the fact that it was a surprise attack, it's a logical deduction to assume that he benefitted from circumstances not afforded to him whenever he attacked another planet. Or indeed, in a random versus scenario. My guess is substantial time and preparation.
Not really, given Nihilus did the same thing he did on Katarr to several other planets. He's stated as having consumed more than one planet, not just Katarr. In fact, iirc, the phrase "web or worlds" was used at one point to describe Nihilus' eating habits. I'll have ti find the specific quote for that though.

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Az has poor memory again. Sheev can army bust zombies with blasters and gets nearly killed doing it. But nah it's an uber feat. thumb up


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I like how Nihilus searching for the supposed Jedi on Telos IV and realising that there aren't any when the Exile tells him, equates to an argument that he needs prep and shit. But okay.


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From the link -

AP is wanking how the ancient sith spirits were beating up Palpatine:



*Azronger turns the feat around and notes that a weakened Sheev basically came close to solo'ing Korriban*

AP suddenly thinks his own feat is meaningless:



LMFAOLMFAO


Oh shit lol never noticed that. What an embarrassment lmao.


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