To be semi-serious, it's interesting to wonder how the average PT Jedi compares to the average TOR one. You might intuitively think there's some parity (so "oh these are no-name PT Jedi" would be a valid argument against them), but then you'd find that the tail-ends are hilariously in the PT's favor - where you find Yoda, Anakin, Mace Windu, Obi Wan, etc. vs... the HoT, Satele...Barsen Thor...
So does the PT just have a much better elite-tier but comparable average-tier? Why is this obvious? I don't see why we should assume that its advantage is exclusively on the tail-ends. "They have a better overall pool of Force users" is a plausible explanation, if not necessarily the right one.
(I'm aware of the "prime of the Jedi even moreso than PT" quote related to KotOR, not sure how to interpret it)
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I mean most of the feats for your average Jedi do come from the PT timeframe, they have the most feats but then this isn't surprising given that it has all the main movie characters surrounding them.
The Jedi Path basically goes more in depth as to what the PT Jedi go through and they have an advantage with training given the holoprojection simulator which enables Jedi who go for the rank of Knight, can square off against Sith Lords of the past. The Jedi Path being written by Fae Coven, among other Jedi Masters which gave all their knowledge + whatever else is put in
Among other things such as a wider resource of knowledge and so forth as they travel the galaxy. This all being said
Fresh Jedi Knight from training> fresh Old Republic Jedi Knight from training. As far as I see it, but again we don't really have much in the way of what the Old Republic did for Jedi training at least in depth.
But I mean, let's say for even sake they had all the same training and the Jedi Path was just written in order to document in all for reference.
Ok so the average Jedi Knight of the PT era is = to an average Jedi Knight of the OR from out of their training. Given that Yoda was leading the Jedi Order to fight the Sith of old if they ever came back, this would make sense. Ok so lets go with that then, sure, it's believable.
So then it's more of the galaxy that would shape the Jedi Knight and whatever they encountered.
The OR Jedi Knight might head off to fight the Sith warriors or Sith Lords, or whoever in a war. They get struck down and die, so right off the bat they're stuck being dead and thus can't improve or pass on what they've learned.
However if they survive, they gain more knowledge of fighting and a better grasp at whatever their opponent might sling at them in the future.
The PT Jedi Knight meanwhile, obviously they're are no Sith to fight given the timeframe. However there's still dangerous combatants such as Mandalorians, A-Series Assassin Droids, Mercenaries, Noghri, so on and so forth. Now yes, obviously I'm not saying these guys are = to Sith, but the thing is...it's still combat experience, they still learn how to better themselves both offensively and defensively. They also duel/spar with fellow Jedi in combat, which again also helps to improve their abilities.
It's the same with the OR Knight, if the PT Jedi dies they obviously can't improve or pass on anything. However the PT Jedi has more chance of a survival and improve upon themselves and then pass on what they have learned later when they aren't fighting.
I mean it's not like when the Sith came back, the OR Jedi suddenly knew how to fight them or have just got finished fighting them after only a few years. So it's not like the OR Jedi war experience would have any sort of big enough edge to tilt things into favor for them.
So here it is.
The PT Jedi and OR Jedi are equal to one another(again if we take The Jedi Path as just finally recording what all the Jedi have done as far as training goes and it isn't limited to just the PT era.), they do have different means of getting to where they are, but neither are greater than the other.
However if you don't, then the fresh trained PT Jedi Knight is > to the OR Jedi Knight just on the grounds with what they have at their disposal as far as training resources, teacher wisdom passed down and so on.
Luke's Jedi Knights if the JK: JO and JK: JA are any indication, given he's had this book, this shows his students being able to get trained to the point of being able to handle multiple dark Jedi on their own and show an impressive array of Force Powers at a time. So they should also be on roughly the same level, give or take.
But if you start mixing experience through, then that's where things could turn tails to either end, but that has many variables in it.
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Could you even take the four best Jedi 19-17BBY Vader has beaten, and have them winning this thread? Any takers on putting such a ferocious squad together?
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Not to intrude on the trolling but we should note that Vader receives an enormous power-up immediately following his victory which is implied to be to an extent he's never felt before, so the implicit Vader lowballing from it is kinda silly.
(not a direct disagreement with you, just quoting for a jumping point)
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