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Captain America needs a power upgrade. Who's with me?

I'm so sick and tired of "prefect human", Cap does superhuman things so often that I actually think Marvel believes us retarded.

Seriously, it's heart warming to see a human with no powers somehow ends up leading the most powerful team on the planet, but it's not realistic at all.

Cap needs a strength upgrade, possibly 4-5 tons.
He needs a speed upgrade. He should have instantaneous reflexes and near low in speeder moving/dodging speed (not running).
He needs something like a healing factor, not like wolvie's, but he can heal a broke bone is a few hours..His intelligence should be higher.

Basically, make cap better, and in doing so, you'll be ore realistic and people buy that crap.


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**** no. That'll just lead to Cap doing even more impossible crap. It's not as if he's the only character that does things that shouldn't be possible given his stated abilities and powerset.


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Just give him a healing factor, and watch him take down cosmic beings.... it worked for Wolverine... no expression


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I disagree.

Captain is Marvel's Superman..except Superman is a boyscout and Cap is a soldier.

What I'm getting at is that Cap should get an ungrade so that he can be a true leader instead of a guy who can get killed by a sharp stick.


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So, give Cap Deathstroke's abilities?

I don't think he ever needs to be powered-up.


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Cap's fine where he is. He was taking Class 90 punches in Civil War 3, so I think he's hardcore enough.


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A power up for Captain? Does that mean a proportional increase of his jobber aura? I can only imagine what will happen then.....

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**** no. That'll just lead to Cap doing even more impossible crap. It's not as if he's the only character that does things that shouldn't be possible given his stated abilities and powerset.
I don't think so, he's fine being overhyped as it is...

Regardless, what he does is what makes him "Captain America".


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Just give him a healing factor, and watch him take down cosmic beings.... it worked for Wolverine... no expression
cap can do that nowno expression


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Just give him a healing factor, and watch him take down cosmic beings.... it worked for Wolverine... no expression

roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Re: Captain America needs a power upgrade. Who's with me?

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I'm so sick and tired of "prefect human", Cap does superhuman things so often that I actually think Marvel believes us retarded.

Seriously, it's heart warming to see a human with no powers somehow ends up leading the most powerful team on the planet, but it's not realistic at all.

Cap needs a strength upgrade, possibly 4-5 tons.
He needs a speed upgrade. He should have instantaneous reflexes and near low in speeder moving/dodging speed (not running).
He needs something like a healing factor, not like wolvie's, but he can heal a broke bone is a few hours..His intelligence should be higher.

Basically, make cap better, and in doing so, you'll be ore realistic and people buy that crap.
Batman does stuff easily as crazy.


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Hell no. Definitely not.

Cap is all about human potential. He is what people in the Marvel universe strive to be like. He's an icon to millions of people, not only in America but around the world. Think he got that respect because of his colour scheme? No, its cause of his will. Cause of how he continually battles opponents that should destroy him. Cause he nevers gives up and always pushes. Cause he never backs down no matter what the challenge is. Captain America personifies human will, embodies the human spirit. The reason he's loved by so many is because he accomplishes all that he has with his human abilities. Its his humanity that speaks volumes to humans, aliens and even gods. Giving him powers strips him of all of that


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Heck no! He is oerpowered as he is.

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Gotta agree with marvelprince on this one


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Hell no. Definitely not.

Cap is all about human potential. He is what people in the Marvel universe strive to be like. He's an icon to millions of people, not only in America but around the world. Think he got that respect because of his colour scheme? No, its cause of his will. Cause of how he continually battles opponents that should destroy him. Cause he nevers gives up and always pushes. Cause he never backs down no matter what the challenge is. Captain America personifies human will, embodies the human spirit. The reason he's loved by so many is because he accomplishes all that he has with his human abilities. Its his humanity that speaks volumes to humans, aliens and even gods. Giving him powers strips him of all of that


Er I was going to say something like that but you sumed it up quite well.

I think what they should do is elaborate on what peak human is. I have said some of this stuff before and im going to say it again....

Peak human can be enhanced.....

Kang

While Kang does not possess super-human abilities per se, he appears to be on a strength and endurance level roughly similar to Captain America, as he is able to take him on in a fairly evenly matched battle- this suggests at least some enhancement.

Also its not as simple as Cap just being one of the best combatants in the world what does this mean? Cap has heightened sense he was able to detect someone trying to ambush him by sensing a shift in the breeze. It took him one day to learn and alien martial art, this suggests that he may have taskmaster type abilities. This possibly means he can study opponents from earth in alot less time.

They need to stop saying he can only lift 800lbs. He can most likely lift a ton, 2 tons with extreme duress.

Futhermore there needs to be some consistency. The fact that Cap is peak human does not mean he cant hurt 70 toners because....

Mantis

Strength Level: Mantis possessed the normal human strength of a woman of her age, height, and build who engages in intensive regular exercise.

Mantis had extraordinary ability in the martial arts that have been developed and perfected over thousands of years by the Priests of Pama. These fighting methods place particular emphasis on the manipulation of pressure points and nerve endings on the bodies of one's opponents. Thus, by knowing the right areas of the body to strike, Mantis could stun even a being as powerful as Thor even though she herself had no superhuman strength.


Cap is not that good, but the fact of the matter is if she can do it there is nothing wrong with Cap knocking people like The Wrecker and Mr Hyde out.

I want Marvel to stop messing around and put it in black and white that his fighting skills give him the ability to stun 70 toners. If he has the ability to stun them there is also nothing wrong with him having the ability to use his skill to somehow sustain damage from them.


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^Agreed. Nicely summed up. Marvel needs to clearly define these things


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Oh yeah slightly OT. Nice sig Validus LOL.


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No no expression

Its more important to tell a good story than to upgrade characters or give them good showings no expression

Thats why the 90's crashed comics.

The fights and whatnot were more important than the story


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No no expression

Its more important to tell a good story than to upgrade characters or give them good showings no expression

Thats why the 90's crashed comics.

The fights and whatnot were more important than the story
I like the early 90s era in comics. From about 90- 94/95. Thats where the IG saga and the maximum carnage thing was popular. It was around the the mid to late 90s that did it for me for a while.


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Hell no. Definitely not.

Cap is all about human potential. He is what people in the Marvel universe strive to be like. He's an icon to millions of people, not only in America but around the world. Think he got that respect because of his colour scheme? No, its cause of his will. Cause of how he continually battles opponents that should destroy him. Cause he nevers gives up and always pushes. Cause he never backs down no matter what the challenge is. Captain America personifies human will, embodies the human spirit. The reason he's loved by so many is because he accomplishes all that he has with his human abilities. Its his humanity that speaks volumes to humans, aliens and even gods. Giving him powers strips him of all of that


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