Ok i know he's done some very horrible things but i never really viewed magneto as a villain. I'm not saying that i agree with or condone his actions, but i do believe he is not a "bad guy" presay. He is just trying to protect his people and to keep them from experiencing the same tragedy that his Jewish brethren experienced. I'm i the only one that thought his character was given an unfair portrayal in the x-movies.
I mean don't get me wrong i really enjoyed watching Ian McKellen's performance as the master of magnetism. I just didn't like the way they showed him as more concerned for his own personal issues than he was for the cause he was sapost to be fighting for. He was never like that, like when he was willing to kill rogue in his place so "the world would be the brothers". What about in the last stand when mystique saved him and became human and he left he to the guard like she was no longer worthy. That was never his way. Magneto WOULD sacrificed himself if he believed it would protect mutants and he would NEVER leave a fellow mutant that stood by his side. In fact the only mutants he stood against were the ones that stood in his way.
So my question for you is if you belive he was really a villain or how you viewed his character?
For me personally, while i don't agree with his methods or the lengths to which he would go, no he was not a villain just a pissed off Jew, and rightfully so.
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Magneto is a villain, there's no getting around it.
Yes, his viewpoint is understandable, but so what? that can never excuse the fact that he's a murderer.... every "villain" has, in their view, good reasons for doing the things they do, it still doesn't give them the right to walk all over the less powerful.
So Magneto was a persecuted Jew.... instead of learning that racism is a bad thing, he decides to make mutants the "Master Race" which is exactly what the Nazi's did and is the reason he was persecuted to begin with..... for all the guy's supposed "intelligence" he seems to be retarded when it comes to learning the obvious.
I have often noted to my friends that Magneto in trying to protect his people he has became the very thing he seeks to destory or the more he tries not to be, the more more be becomes the very thing he hates the most. In many ways he has became hisown Hitler!
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I believe that a similar thing is also true for Nightwing. Dick has tried so hard not to become Bruce that he starts to refuse anyones help because he does want to be seen as "the next batman" but in doing so, when he acts that way he becomes even more like Bruce.
Of course his becoming more like the very thing he tries not to be in this case, is both quite different and also very simuliar to Magneto's situation.
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Not that i can think of but he had said that every villain has theirown "good" reason for what they do.
I was only stating that no not all of them have a reason. The Joker even admits there is no reason for what he does.
If Bruce would've only taken the sin of killing him upon himself the first or the 100th time he tried to kill hundreds of innocent people, how many people would be better off or even just still alive? Barbra would never have been raped or paralised, Jason wouldn't have died, (even if he did come back), Sarah Gordon would be alive, or what about the chaos he caused after he gained Mr. Mxyztplk's powers and destoryed and recreated the universe.
Weither it is right to kill or not, (which i strongly belive is not our right to do as mortals) there are times when it is worth taking the sin upon ourselves for the greater good. So while magneto is wrong in what and especially how he is doing. I can accept that i would do horrible things if i truly belived they would be far more than well worth it. Does that make me a villain? If i am willing to die with a great mortal sin on my soul to benifit of all the lives i save?
If i killed the Joker or Senitor Kelly for instance
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magneto is a villain..hard to the core, but he's a stupid one..I feel like if you feel like you're soooo superior why dont you just go off on an island and live by your self...oh wait he did didnt he? three times by my count..he rebuilt avalon after it was destroyed(i think)and was given genosha by the UN..after all those years of hard work and wholesale slaughter he finally got a nation to rule and instaed of building up the place to one of the most awesome countries in the world..he just used it as a staging ground for more failed attempts at taking over the world....f ****ing idiot...if he was spending his time building up his nation's defenses, and stop leaving every two minutes to go fight the Xmen maybe he would have been prepared for the sentienl massacre
There's a thin line between freedom fighter and terrorist...it depends which side you look at it from. Is it alright to kill people? Nope it isn't...but when you look at everything he's lost it's understandable...why one would do that...I mean if my family or someone I cared about were murdered...I'd totally be out for blood...
It's War...at the end of the day...there is no Good and Evil in war...
So in that sense he's not a villian....
What makes Magneto a villian though are his interactions with his fellow mutants...his word is GOD...if you disagree with his views then you are as much the enemy as the Human Race...
magneto is def a villian. most villians don't know that they are villians, that'd be kinda dumb.
almost all sentient beings feel that there way is the right way. this is a little off topic but it helps me with my point...
i.e. lestat the vampire, from the anne rice books. he thought he was offering the greatest gift anyone could offer to louie. was he a good person? no. he did care for him however and he thought what he was doing was right for him.
the same applies to magneto. his gift to the homosuperior is detramental as a whole.
and if you look at some of the things magneto has done to achive his goal, i don't think theres much debate left in the matter.
and i don't care if he had good intentions. some of the worst things have come to pass due to good intentions.
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