If they have sentience and sapience, sure why not. Ego's a living planet. Mercury of the New X-Men is made of inorganic (unlike the organic metal of Colossus) mercury, how that works I have no idea.
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Ultron, yes. Eradicator, sorta. Vision, used to be, but not anymore. In Vision's case, it was losing the brain patterns of Wonder Man. I think he's working his way back up. Ultron, for all his hatred of organics, exibits more than enough qualities to be called sentient, but what defines life? Eradicator is a grey area, given his multiple personalities. I'd lean towards yes. Iron Man's sentient armor could be called alive. Same with the phalanx and Apocalypse's ship.
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We make the mistake of assuming that humans aren't simply insanely complex machines. The emotions, feelings, and responses that supposedly seperate us from machines can literally be equated to little more than electrical synapses firing in our brains.
The material they're made out of is, excuse the pun, immaterial.
A lot of people would disagree with you there. The Biological definition of consciousness only works in a deterministic universe and doesn't allow for the presence of Free will. In other words you have never made a free choice in you're entire life, and nor has anyone else. Do you honestly believe that Digi ? By suggesting that, you remove the concept of morality, and consequently the ideals of Good and evil, i.e. they are just delusional interpretations of chance and probability. Also established meta physical concepts such as the Spectre, Presence and the soul gems, have to be ignored.
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Actually, yes. That sounds about right. At least as far as real-life goes...I realize that certain origins, powers, and/or characters may utterly fall apart in comics if such suggestions were accepted, and the characters and stories were written as such.
Because if we're nothing more than complex machines, everything we do is entirely deterministic. Each action, word, thought, response, etc. that we make is the direct effect of the causes that preceded it, and nothing more.
It removes any idea of free will and choice that is so prevalent is much of Western society, largely due to religious influence on the subject.
No, the conept of choice you're using is too vague.
How do you arrive at any choice? Chocolate instead of vanilla, for instance. The causes that preceded it, however random and arbitrary they may seem, force that outcome. If you choose, say, chocolate, the universe would not allow for any other choice other than "chocolate" given the circumstances that preceded the choice....simply because that's the one that happened.
Saying something like "well, I could've chosen vanilla" is false, because if you had chosen vanilla, the causes that preceded it would have allowed for the choice, and we would exist in a differently ordered universe. Thus, "chocolate" affects everything in the universe that follows it, just as everything that that preceded it caused "chocolate" in the first place.
In such a system of thought, choice itself is an illusion. Concepts of choice and free will are themselves determined by causes, and not exempt from determinism.
The choices are already made....or at least they are inevitable. We just don't know what they'll be, thus our continued excitement in life.
Basically Chaos Theory, "Everything effects everything else and everything that happens was always going to happen because all the events were always going to have the same effect on one another, leading to the same outcome"
Something like that?
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So basically when I say that I will win the tournament and when I do it was always going to happen that way anyways and none of the contestants have a say in the matter
Yea, I'm not exactly sure how to put it into words (because I am not always great at expressing my exact thoughts in writing) but, I think between what you and I said that should about sum it up enough for others to get what we're saying.
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