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srankmissingnin
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616 Wolverine and Ultimate Wolverine, a connection?

[SPOILER - highlight to read]: 616 Wolverine had a flash back to the scene from Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk, where he gets ripped in half in issue 50!

... What the heck does that mean? Does Post HoM 616 Wolverine have some sort of physic connection with alternate reality versions of him self since Wanda's meddling?

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Jan 24th, 2007 07:00 PM

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Hmm. Maybe this is one of their "untold" encountered. IIRC they were hinted to have some off panel fights?

Even better. Does this mean that that feat has ground in the 616 universe now? It does prove that Wolverine's joints aren't bound by adamantium, as opposed to some thinking so, so does this flashback now make that canon?

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They could just be using the art from that issue instead of directly flashing back to that specific battle.

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They weren't just re-using panels, the art was new and redrawn by McGuinness for the story.

It wasn't an "Untold" fight between 616 Wolverine and Hulk, as 616 Wolverine has never worn the Ultimate Wolverine uniform (which he points out in the issue). Wolverine is remembering his first fight with the Hulk (which is notably different this time around due to some reconts) and his memory is interupted by one of Ultimate Wolverine getting torn in half... and Wolverine is all "WTF?". Not sure how you came to the conclusion that Wolverine having a possible physic link to the memories of his Ultimate counterpart some how adds up to Ultimate Wolverine getting ripped in half = 616 Wolverine getting ripped in half, though. It still has no grounds in the normal marvel universe.

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Jan 24th, 2007 07:39 PM

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Any scans?

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Interesting. Ult. Wolverine is supposed to be getting his own series soon-ish so maybe this'll be one of the things that's addressed.

Any chance of scans... ?

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Any scans?

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Heh, maybe they'll use this to explain why the Ult Hulk vs. Wolverine issues never come out. I think Loeb was supposed to be the one writing the Ult. Wolvie series aswell, so obviously he's got plans.

Thanks for the scans.

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That's got to have some relevance to 616. I've never before seen any sort of 616/Ultimate merging before. Perhaps it is supposed to be some off-panel action that happened later? Possibly merged memories?

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Interesting...

But Marvel did say they wouldn't do an Ultimate/616 crossover until they were "all out of ideas." I doubt this will lead to anything major.

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Originally posted by Metalmanx
That's got to have some relevance to 616. I've never before seen any sort of 616/Ultimate merging before. Perhaps it is supposed to be some off-panel action that happened later? Possibly merged memories?

Merging of memories is what I was thinking too.

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Heh, maybe they'll use this to explain why the Ult Hulk vs. Wolverine issues never come out. I think Loeb was supposed to be the one writing the Ult. Wolvie series aswell, so obviously he's got plans.

Thanks for the scans.

B-I-N-G-O, this is most likely. It's like an "In-joke" seeing as Ult Hulk vs Wolverine is cancelled. but yeah.

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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Merging of memories is what I was thinking too.

Seems likely.

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Definitely an In-joke

Anyway , we wont be seeing any more 'Ult Wolvie V Hulk' until that pathetic excuse for a writer ends his crap-stain of a show and tries to Stark on issue 3.

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If you notice Wolverine says, "What the Hell was that Uniform?" That puzzled me at the end as well.

And, "I hate Canada."

Does anyone know the differences between the normal issue and the all black and White issue?

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Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
If you notice Wolverine says, "What the Hell was that Uniform?" That puzzled me at the end as well.

And, "I hate Canada."

Does anyone know the differences between the normal issue and the all black and White issue?

Because 616 Wolverine has never seen Ultimate Wolverine's uniform...

The black and white issue is just inked versions of Bianchi's pencils... not sure if it has the McGuinness side story.

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Jan 24th, 2007 09:47 PM