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Who of Marvel's Abstracts and Cosmics?

Which of abstracts and cosmics have been around since Marvel's previous universe?

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Galactus is the only one I know of.
When he spoke to Eternity, in the old Silver Surfer issues, he mentioned how he is the only one that doesn't exist as part of Eternity. He is the lone foriegn character.

Most other relevent ones came later, or were born when the big bang occured, like Tenebrous and Aegis. But were not part of whatever existed before.

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Celestials were to. I would guess LT,Eternity and other multiversal beings to.

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Celestials were to. I would guess LT,Eternity and other multiversal beings to.

Lt probably was, but I don't see how the living universe could exist before the universe it embodies did. >.>
But yeah, maybe some of the other multiversal characters.
I don't think the Celestials were.

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Here why I think so.

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The Infinity Being...

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Galan (although he was just a man), Nemesis, & LT I think. but not eternity or death.

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Isn't Eternity the one who saved Galactus from the destruction of the previous universe?

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Isn't Eternity the one who saved Galactus from the destruction of the previous universe?

Sentience of the Universe(previous Eternity). Celestials were around with LT prior to 616(Earth)

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Here why I think so.

Is that from Earth X?

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Don't know

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Is that from Earth X?

Universe X.

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Possibly Abraxas

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Sentience of the Universe(previous Eternity). Celestials were around with LT prior to 616(Earth)

Actually that is incorrect. The Celestials were created by Eternity. Hence they were not around from the previous universe.

Galactus, and Galactus ONLY, has been around since before the current 616-universe. This has been stated several times in comics. Living Tribunal is outside of the 616-universe, as he governs the multiverse, so he does not count. All the abstracts, including the Phoenix Force, are reincarnated everytime a new universe is born.

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Actually that is incorrect. The Celestials were created by Eternity. Hence they were not around from the previous universe.

Galactus, and Galactus ONLY, has been around since before the current 616-universe. This has been stated several times in comics. Living Tribunal is outside of the 616-universe, as he governs the multiverse, so he does not count. All the abstracts, including the Phoenix Force, are reincarnated everytime a new universe is born.

I like the scans with Eternity/Celestials. If u know about the Absolutes, how wild the theory is, it is. Galactus and Celestials always debatable. My choice is my own. PF was with LT also. LT, well. He's my favorite. smile

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The Phoenix is reincarnated as the Big Bang with every cycle, however it is the same Force that is reborn continually and with that in mind as far as the topic question is concerned, the Phoenix Force was around in the previous multiverse. The point is stated in the last two bios of Galactus (FF4 2005 and Nova Corps Files)

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Re: Who of Marvel's Abstracts and Cosmics?

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Which of abstracts and cosmics have been around since Marvel's previous universe?

I don't know what you mean by "previous universe," but in Marvel's heyday in the late 60s there were (afaik)...

Galactus
Watcher
Odin
Stranger
Eternity

Then, in time, the One-Upmanship Universe was born and ultimate beings were all over the place like cosmic cockroaches.

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Stranger, he was once the fourth face of LT before he gained independance.

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Stranger, he was once the fourth face of LT before he gained independance.

Actually, I think Stranger had the opportunity to become the forth face of LT, but declined. I don't think he was ever actually the forth face.

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the elders...

the elders are composed of beings who are the last individual survivors of their respective races from the previous universe...

i think...

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