- Tier 5 - [ 1st Class Universal Abstract Entity + Dimensional God ]:
Spectre (Fully powered) Parallax/ Parallax Entity/ Ion (Original)/ The Anti-Life Entity/ The Ecrus/ Shattered Gods/ The Warlogog/ The A/ Captain Atom (the one that created a universe)/ Kismet (if you want to go by JLA/Avengers)/ Carnivore/ Genesis Box/ Una, the Cosmic Worm of Heaven and Hell/ Maaldor (Universe)
- Tier 6 - [ 2nd Class Universal Abstract Entity + Dimensional God ]:
The Endless Destiny/ Dream/ Destruction/ Desire/ Despair/ Dellirium/
Decreator/ Godwave
Hell Lords inside their own realm Neron/ Trigon/ Neron/ Satannish/ Satanus/ Azmodus/ Shaitan/ Eclipso/ Satan/ King of Tears/ Koth Sugoth/
Spectre (average)/ The Lurker/ Entropy (Krona)/ The Word/ Imperiex/ Brainiac 13/ Abraxus/ Promethian Giants/ Quantum Mechanics/ Black Racer/ Black Flash/ Kulak/ Mystos/ Shadrack/ Hellion/ Eclipso - Wrath of God (average)/ Spear of Destiny/ Superman Prime
Lords of Order -Lord Kilderkin / -J'akk / -Kismet / -Nabu: Nabu the Wise / -Pantagones / -Shatru/ -St'ann / -Terataya / -Ynar /
Lords of Chaos -Child/ -Gorrum/ -Hytuurnus / -Mordru / -M'Shulla/ -Nabu: Nabu the Wise / -Shivering Jemmy / -T'Charr / -The Weaver / -The Shallow Brigade and the Laughing Dancers / -The five original Lords of Chaos (Appeared in Grant Morrison's and later Ann Nocienti's Kid Eternity series - #:Chaos is viewed as a good force here)/ -Typhon/ -Vandaemon / -Zanadu the Chaos Maker
Arzaz (heroic Old God)/ Balduur (heroic Old God whose atoms formed New Genesis)/ The Dreggs (the undead)/ Lokee (god of evil)/ The Nameless One (evil Old God)/ Wotan (ruler of the Old Gods)/ etc.
S'ivaa the Destroyer and Dark Elements/ Maggedon/ Yuga Khan/ Clockwerx/ King of Tears (Outside it's realm)
- Tier 12 - [ Skyfather level + Upper Class Team Wrecker ]:
Guardians of the Universe/ The Controllers/ Zamarons/ Skyfather pantheons (Odin, Zeus, Dove, etc.)/ Ares/ Cosmic Gamblers
Hell Lords outside their own realm Neron/ Trigon/ Neron/ Satannish/ Satanus/ Azmodus/ Shaitan/ Eclipso/ Satan
Wonderland Inhabitants/ Doctor Fate (Fullest)/ Eclipso (depowered)/ Superman One Million/ Tynan ( the balance between Chaos and Order)
The Archangels Gabriel/ Uriel/ Raphael/ Sarauquel/ Raguel
Oblivion/ Sun Eater/ Solaris/ Owners of the Earth/ Millenium Giants/ Trinity Giants (Guardians' god)/ The Elder gods of Shazam (Marzosh, Arel, Ribalvei, Voldar, Elbiam, Lumium)/ The Luck Lords
- Tier 13 - [ Planetary-Star Scale: Death Gods + Lower Class Team Wreckers + High End Psionics ]:
Despero/ Darkseid (varies)/ Helspont/ Lord Defile/ Hightower/ Lord Emp/ Doctor Fate (Normal)/ Validus/ Sun-Dipped Superman/ Fernus/ Takion/ Stayne/ Hourman III/ Waverider/ Godfrey Gaius (Actual form)/ Eye of Ekron/ Black Zero/ Swamp Thing (World Elemental)
Parliaments Trees/ Stones/ Water/ Fire/ Air
Elementals Firestorm/ Naiad/ Red Tornado/ Swamp Thing/ Elemental of Stone
Death Gods (Set, Pluto, Hel Half-Rotted, Kali, Hades, Persephone, etc.)/ Validus/ Omnimar Synn/ Overmaster/ the Doctor (any one since each has the powers of all previous Doctors)
- Tier 14 - [ Top Tiers ]:
Superman/ Green Lantern (varies)/ The Flash III/ Zoom II/ Mister Majestic/ Black Adam/ Doomsday/ Sinestro/ Orion/ Cyborg Superman/ Captain Marvel/ Martian Manhunter/ Sentinel/ Triumph/ Mantis/ Brimstone
Apollo/ Lightray/ Captain Atom/ Firestorm/ Doctor Polaris/ Bizarro
- Tier 15 - [ 2nd-Tiers ]:
Wonder Woman/ Captain Atom/ Superboy/ Supergirl/ Captain Marvel Jr./ Mary Marvel/ Lobo/ Etrigan/ Power Girl/ The Flash (Barry Allen)/ Kalibak/ Agogg/ Lex Luthor (armored)/ Zatanna/ Zauriel/ Asmodel/ Army of the Pax-Dei Angels
Steel
- Tier 16 - [ 3rd-Tiers ]
Hercules/ Metallo/ The Ray/ Donna Troy/ Madame Xanadu/ Kinetix/ Doctor Light
- Tier 17 - [ Upper Mid Tiers ]
Aquaman/ Vandal Savage/ Blue Devil/ Wonder Girl/ Tempest/ The Flash (Jay Garrick)/ Impulse/Kid Flash/ Hawkman/ Plastic Man/ Elongated Man
- Tier 18 - [ Lower Mid Tiers ]
The Atom/ The Creeper/ Animal Man/ Clayface/ Vixen
- Tier 19 - [ Upper Street Level ]
Batman/ Joker/ Bane/ Deathstroke/ Owlman/ Green Arrow/ Merylyn/ Blue Beetle (Jaime Reyes)/ Azrael
- Tier 20 - [ Mid Street Level ]
Nightwing/ Deadshot/ Wildcat/ Black Canary/ Batgirl (Cassandra Cain)/ Green Arrow (Connor Hawke)/ Arsenal (Roy Harper)/ Hitman/ Catwoman/ Shado/ Blue Beetle (Ted Kord)/ Richard Dragon/ Lady Shiva
Just at quick glance, Wonder Woman and friggin Zatanna belong in the top tier. Donna Troy in the 2nd tier. Mxy and Bat-Mite should be grouped up there with Ion and Parallax. Not sure why some characters are listed twice but nonetheless it doesn't make sense to divide them into high and low showings.
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Last edited by HaSon on Mar 18th, 2007 at 03:44 AM
Anyone could probably take exception with many aspects of a list of that size. But it's a lot better than I could do, so I have a hard time justifying too much negativity towards it. You could do a lot worse for DC hierarchy, and it seems logical enough in most parts, even though there's minor problems in many places.
this list looks real solid only a ninny noodled knit picker will express "negativity"...however there is no f ****ing way that hercules is below superman, wonder woman and the higher ups in the marvel family tree.. especially since said f ****ers got thier strength from him.. also no disrespect to fernus and sun dipped superman but Takion is way above them...
one last thing, there is no f ****ing way that despero is in the same tier as Onimar Syn...THEEEEE F ****ING ONIMAR SYN?!?! LEX LUHTOR HIGHER THAN HERCULES?!?! AND LOBO IS 2ND TIER?!?
The first bit involves msotly vertigo characters so Im not too sure.
Id have all the Endless WAY above Anti Montitor as they are really metaphysical notions that sometimes take physical form. The question is, can u kill a concept ? Decarte and Kahnt would suggest you cant.
Id have Spectre WAY above this level, as he was abled to stalemate the Anti Monitor and Parallax on his own accord. With the power of God he probably above the Endless. Id put the fully powered Anti monitor in this category as well. Ion and co definitely dont deserve to be at this level. And all the Warlogog is basically the infinity Gaunlet, its limits have yet to really be tested.
There so much wrong with this i dont want to get started.
These tow levels need to be mixed about a bit, and some need to be releagted entirely; the Melinium Giants, Mordru, the Black Racer, Time Ttrapper and Eclipso all need to be relegated.
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It's a good list...of course people will have different views. Mine is just that characters like The Word and Phantom Stranger plus The Wizard Shazam should be somewhere in Tier 5. The Word is almost like The Spectre except we don't see much of him...PS is very underrated and the limits of this powers are still unknown...The Wizard practically is the overlord of Magic.
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