Superman is like Christ in DC. He makes the company, without him, DC falls...so they have to have him as their top dog. Plus, he is the most iconic, popular hero in the world.
And no I don't hate Superman I just look at the fact he can't loose in DC because he is the flagship character.
Therefore I think typically his actual power is below the Top GLs and more in line with someone like Cap. Marvel and Martian Manhunter.
With most of his typical good feats coming at the ends of fights.
I'll use a good analogy. Juggernaut at least Classic was a villain therefore he was always destined to loose and of course he lost because of that reason it doesn't mean that people like the X-Men and Spiderman are really that strong Juggernaut just had to loose.
I think it is the reverse with Superman maybe even more so because he is the flagship he must never loose in DC ever no matter who he is up against no matter how much he should be beaten.
You also want your comic creations to be in the DCU, because you want them to interact with WW, Booster Gold and Cap Marvel.
You even want him/her to interact with big blue himself, but you're really afraid of how other writers/mandates might affect the growth of your character.
Silly, right, since all characters in DC are cherished, right?
Right.............?
But you see how characters in DC sometimes get handled, if they aren't Bruce or Clark.
You don't want that to happen to your favorite character.
Now, this was me 10 years ago.
And it's likely many people nowadays as well.
That's why i ask these questions...
Plus, since i'm trying to write my own comics, i'm trying to see if i want my favorites to be backed by any future editorial decrees.
This is sort of the bias against Supes that is all over the forum. If Thanos smacks around 10 100class guys, it's cool. If Superman does it, it's 'because he's a flagship character', and then brushed aside and ignored?
However, what we debate on is based on comic showings. Ignoring those and creating your own lesser version of Superman to debate with is kinda wrong and in contradication to his appearances.
Do you do this with all characters?
Basically, I'm asking, because I'd sorta like to know how seriously I can take your posts if I see them in a thread.
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The minute you see Blue Beetle lunch boxes, book bags and shirts at Wal Mart, and a Blue Beetle ride at six flags, holla at me.
Until then, I don't see it changing.
Superman and Batman will always be the flagship.
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You would take my post seriously yeah because no one else does
And I understand this but there is kind of a loophole rule to Superman that everyone seems to abide when describing his power level.
In that no matter how strong a character is shown to be without Superman like a Green Lantern once they are around a big threat with Superman even though they could equally do just as well or better it is always Superman that must be the one to win. Then people loop it around in saying that he must be stronger than all these characters because he was chosen to win and no one else. When in reality it was because he was DCs flagship character.
Despite his personal showings being less than that of other characters.
Its not a bias against Superman its common sense to understand Superman gets kind of mini upgrades if you want to call them that only when he has to win against someone and not before or after that moment in time.
Where you want to place him without the having-to-win-power is up to you. Personally I see Gladiator and Superman as pretty interchangeable without it.
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